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Irwin 02-16-2006, 03:47 PM Have any of you seen the big spread in the new Stereophile on the Dead?
Just curious to know your opinion's on what some of you considider to be the best, as far as sound qualtiy and performance, from The Vault and Dicks Picks series.
bozak ron 02-18-2006, 12:15 PM Irwin, check out the All Music Guide. They always have great critics with fair reviews. Myself personally, I prefer the sound of the early Dead before all the drugs took its toll on Jerry, Pigpen passed away, and Dead shows & recordings became formalized. So my favorite Dick Picks are Dick's Pick #4 at the Fillmore East and Dick's Pick #2 at Columbus, Ohio which opens with an absolute stunning, jazzy version of Dark Star. Finally, another great live Dead recording is The Closing Of Winterland, December 31, 1978. Just one Deadhead's opinion.
tony-w 07-04-2006, 02:15 PM Irwin, check out the All Music Guide. They always have great critics with fair reviews. Myself personally, I prefer the sound of the early Dead before all the drugs took its toll on Jerry, Pigpen passed away, and Dead shows & recordings became formalized. So my favorite Dick Picks are Dick's Pick #4 at the Fillmore East and Dick's Pick #2 at Columbus, Ohio which opens with an absolute stunning, jazzy version of Dark Star. Finally, another great live Dead recording is The Closing Of Winterland, December 31, 1978. Just one Deadhead's opinion.
I prefer the Dead when the drugs did have an influence on the music. It was was the cholesterol that "took its toll on Jerry".
mhardy6647 07-04-2006, 02:39 PM It was was the cholesterol that "took its toll on Jerry".
No, unfortunately it was the heroin. :-(
He went from the happy drugs of the '60's to the hard stuff, and it did take its toll, and his health and ultimately his life.
Read "Garcia: An American Life" by Blair Jackson.
tony-w 07-04-2006, 03:29 PM No, unfortunately it was the heroin. :-(
He went from the happy drugs of the '60's to the hard stuff, and it did take its toll, and his health and ultimately his life.
Read "Garcia: An American Life" by Blair Jackson.
Thought he died from a heart attack and also read somewhere that several of his arteries were blocked from a high fat diet.
Cosmic Charlie 07-04-2006, 03:38 PM It's hard to maintain a healthy diet when you've been on the road for 30 odd years. Alot of people who die from OD suffer heart failure. So your both probably correct. CC
PakProtector 07-04-2006, 04:16 PM Hey-Hey!!!,
My appreciacion of a Dead recording has more to do with me being in the audience when it was played than anything else. Not that I'd go and seek a fuzzy copied, copy of a copy...but if I was there in the first place, I'd still listen to it...:)
cheers,
Douglas
packratt 07-04-2006, 08:17 PM Anybody know where I could get a copy of the article?
thx
Andyman 07-04-2006, 09:06 PM Anybody know where I could get a copy of the article?
thx
I didn't see any references to it online, but then again, I just noticed that the post was dated 2/16.
Here's a link to Allmusic's Dead discography. Just click on a line for a review.
Allmusic Dead Discography (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:5tkku3y5an6k~T2)
colinhester 07-04-2006, 09:59 PM .....on 9-10-1991. "Standing on the Moon" with Branford on alto did not get any better.
http://www.archive.org/details/gd91-09-10.sbd.sacks.511.sbeok.shnf Right box is streaming audio. Can also listen to any GD set.....Colin
ldatlof 07-04-2006, 10:27 PM Have any of you seen the big spread in the new Stereophile on the Dead?
Just curious to know your opinion's on what some of you considider to be the best, as far as sound qualtiy and performance, from The Vault and Dicks Picks series.I have volumes #3, #6, #8, #10, #18 & #23. They are all good IMO. The guy who wrote the article for Stereophile really liked #23. I bought it on his recomendation and have to agree that it is very good in sound quality and performance. The one I play most is #18. The sound quality is not as good (still good though) but I just love the songs on this one. #8's first disc is accoustic and therefore a must have. BTW, all the volumes after #17 are HDCDs if that is important to you. I agree with Allmusic.com's reviews for the most part (though not #18).
I only have the first two of the "From The Vault" series and these are recorded on 16 track machines (Dick's Picks are recorded on 2 track). #2 is an awesome show from 1968 (with PigPen) and really captures the early Dead. I hoped this helped.
Mr Natural 07-05-2006, 09:41 AM DP #8 Harpur College 5-2-70 is the finest show they performed.
Was a student at Alfred U, where they played the nite before, and we followed them over to Binghamton for the next nites show....sure glad I did!
Jack Lord 07-05-2006, 11:40 AM DP #8 Harpur College 5-2-70
I have that one and love it. Great acoustical set. I really like the slow version of "I Know You Rider". Very haunting.
pmsummer 07-05-2006, 11:59 AM No, unfortunately it was the heroin. :-(
He went from the happy drugs of the '60's to the hard stuff, and it did take its toll, and his health and ultimately his life.
Read "Garcia: An American Life" by Blair Jackson.
I'm looking forward to seeing Hot Tuna in a couple of weeks. Jorma and Jack got the message before it was too late.
It's good that so many of the survivors of the sixties have become friends of Bill.
Jim Eck 07-05-2006, 12:30 PM Not to highjack but this is from a few years ago, a day late for the Fourth.
Jerry National Anthem (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn7UB2FtrIE&search=JERRY+GARCIA)
Jim
packratt 07-06-2006, 09:01 PM How can you tell which version of Aoxomoxoa is the more desirable first pressing?
I've got a German copy done by Warner Bros.-Seven Arts Records. Would this have used the same masters?
Thanks
mhardy6647 07-06-2006, 09:23 PM How can you tell which version of Aoxomoxoa is the more desirable first pressing?
The original version doesn't say "remix" on it, and the label is the green "W7". The mix is different on virtually every song. The sound is better than the remix (at least, better than the late-1970's copy of the remix that I have). The remix is decidedly more "professional" sounding, although "What's Become of the Baby" seems more interesting on the original mix than the remix.
EDIT: the remix says "Remixed September, 1971 at Alembic Studios, San Francisco. Engineers: Bob and Betty" way down near the bottom of the back cover, under the photo. Both the original and the remix LP's carry the catalog number "WS 1790".
EDIT^2 The Rhino remastered CD with bonus tracks is the remix. It sounds good, but the original mix's masters weren't available (perhaps they no longer exist).
Whitehall 07-07-2006, 02:52 PM Just wanted to plug one of my favorite albums - Garcia and Grisman.
The last cut "Don't Tell Me Your Troubles" or somesuch gets me signing.
mhardy6647 07-07-2006, 05:15 PM Jerry & David's "NOT For Kids Only" is also grand fun and sounds terrific.
Jim Eck 07-08-2006, 05:37 AM Jerry & David's "NOT For Kids Only" is also grand fun and sounds terrific.
Have you listened to "Shady Grove", excellent, David and Jerry do some great old tunes.
Jim
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