Here we go.

I am running a G 9000 in my living room and I have a set of Altec 19 clones attached.

EW did the upgrades and told me it pumps 218 WPC!

I have the volume stop set at 35.

I can't get much above the 35 mark with out serious ear protection and good picture window insurance.

The output meters are pegged at the #10 which is about dead middle when I am running for cover.

WTF does 10 mean on the upper scale?

The next number is 100 and I could never in my wildest, drunkest, or otherwiseist moments, go there.

I know 19s are efficient. I know the reciever is a power house.
So when the meter is reading 10 and the volume is at 35, does this mean I am pumping 10 WPC????

I keep hearing others say they can get above half way on the Volume dial and I either don't believe them or figure they have some pretty inefficient speakers that hog lots of power.

Where is your MAX VOLUME set when the music is more then loud enough?

What do your meters read at this setting??

Thanks

Gary

I've got a G-901DB hooked to some Klipsch KLF-10's, which are fairly efficient, and I can't get past the 30 mark without thinking I'm causing permanent hearing loss. I listen to mostly rock (AC/DC, etc.) and I like my music LOUD, but that's about it for me. I can't imagine turning the knob to or over halfway.

When you get loud and are at the 30 mark, are you just under the number 10 on the upper scale of you output meters???

Thats what I am trying to figure out. Are my meters working right and what does the upper scale mean when it is at 10?

Gary

Sorry, I wish I could answer, but I haven't really looked at the output meters when playing. I always felt they really didn't mean alot, just a general idea of the output power at a given time. I would assume that if the meters read 10 at a "35" setting it would equal around 10 watts output. I'd go check mine right now, but the wife and kids might object to "Highway to Hell" rattling the windows at midnight.

The power meters are more eye candy than precision instruments. The 10 is supposed to represent 10 Watts. That is seriously loud on any receiver.

- Pete

Honestly.....2 clicks on the volume knob on my G33000 is LOUD...."two clicks" at -52. I always have my guest turn the knob and they just freak out with the massive power......and thats nothing.........I have two pair of Sansui SPX9xxx running..... :banana:

I COULD be wrong...I'm no tech Gary, but I suspect that what is happening is that cd players will always tend to play at a MUCH louder output than say...a record player or tape deck.....at a given level INDICATED on the volume knob.

I'm assuming you are playing cd's.
Is it the same with vynil or tape?

Russ

Whoops! Forgot to add.....

I'm using only cd's at the moment. I'm using pretty much the same set up as you are (Altec 19's/G9000).

Hell...I can't even GET to the "35" mark without being pushed out of the room!


Russ

Doesn't matter what I'm playing (CD, FM, etc...)The manual says, low volume with the "loud" button depressed is best ! If you are going to rock out, do NOT put the loud button on unless you have the speakers to handle it as the BEAST will go into protection mode with too much juice applied..... :yes:

Doesn't matter what I'm playing (CD, FM, etc...)The manual says, low volume with the "loud" button depressed is best ! If you are going to rock out, do NOT put the loud button on unless you have the speakers to handle it as the BEAST will go into protection mode with too much juice applied..... :yes:

I totally agree! :thmbsp:
Loudness OFF if you're gonna crank!

Russ

When I get loud with it the loudness is always off. CDs are being played.

When my other G 9000 down stairs is running LPs it is completely different and requires a great deal more V to get to the same loudness levels.
Think this has to do with the phono input section and the cartridge.

Actually, 30 on the V dial is great and very loud. I can get to 35 without risk of damage to speakers but it is too loud and not enjoyable at all.
I just know when I have it at the 35 mark, the power meter is dancing on the #10. This is evidently an inaccurate reading but supposed to be about 10 watts of power being made by the amp. I just can't imagine ever needing any more then this unless I get some inefficient speakers or bring the TT upstairs.

Gary

The laws of physics will not allow the needles in those gauges to reflect the real instantaneous power being produced by the Amp. They just can't move fast enough. A true peak and hold reading meter is needed. Or digital LED- Floro type.

Second point, assuming you are listening to a LINE source, FM will generate about 1 volt of output at full modulation and a CDP will be anywhere from 1v-2volt of output. Easily overdriving the maps. so you could be putting out 50-100 watts even when the potentiometer is only at 1/3 rotation. Yet with your TT cartridge output, you may be able to move that knob up to the half or further rotation...for the same output level.

Input sensitivty is something we all forgot about over time. Read the units specs and that will give you that information.

I, too, have a big Sansui [G9000DB] attached to some effecient horns [Klipsch Cornwalls]. I often use the -20dB attenuation switch (engaged) with the volume control to offer some form of adjustability.

This combo isn't as harsh as many would think, but I'll be the first to admit that the amplification is serious overkill. :smoke:

"I cannot imagine that the wattage meters are accurate for any of us."