Hey guys! Got another question for ya... This one unlike the last one should be very simple to answer lol.

I just got a set of used Infinity Referance Six speakers... They sound awesome with the exception that one woofer has a kind of pop or crackle in it when there is a song with much bass in it on. And the other thing is that the foam surrond on the woofer has come unglued from the cone. The foam itself is in really good shape its just not attatched anymore.

Is the poping and crackling from the foam coming unglued or is the woofer blown and need replaced?

Thanks in advance for all the help guys!! Your life savers :thmbsp:

Hey guys! Got another question for ya... This one unlike the last one should be very simple to answer lol.

I just got a set of used Infinity Referance Six speakers... They sound awesome with the exception that one woofer has a kind of pop or crackle in it when there is a song with much bass in it on. And the other thing is that the foam surrond on the woofer has come unglued from the cone. The foam itself is in really good shape its just not attatched anymore.

Is the poping and crackling from the foam coming unglued or is the woofer blown and need replaced?

Thanks in advance for all the help guys!! Your life savers :thmbsp:

if the foam is actually OK reglue it and see if that fixes your issue.

You are most likely hearing the voice coil hitting the sides of the pole piece. Get that foam reglued.

It was not said, in so many words, so, here goes:

STOP using that speaker, until you get the foam surround reattached or replaced. The woofer may not be permanently damaged now, but you may inflict fatal damage if you keep using it, in its present condition.

As the man said, don't play it until you fix the surround. These are a sealed design and by having the surround loose on one speaker provides a large air leak. The result, as has been mentioned, is the bottoming out (VC over-excursions and slams into the back of its slot) of your woofer (and boomy, flabby bass) wherein the voice coil will be irreparably damaged in short order.

When you do fix it, you should have some decent speakers. If you're curious, here are the specs.

PRODUCT SPECIFICATIONS

Frequency Response: 35Hz - 40kHz (+/-3dB)
Crossover Frequency(ies): 200Hz, 1.5kHz, 4kHz
Sensitivity: 90dB (1 watt/1 meter)
Nominal Impedance: 6 ohms
Power Rating: 35 - 225 watts
Woofer: 10" (25.4cm) IMG
Mid-Bass Driver: 6" (15.2cm) IMG
Midrange Driver: 5" (12.7cm)
Tweeter: EMIT-R


- JP

Thanks to everyone that replyed!! I have only played them enough to figure out which speaker had a problem and what it was. So I hope Im still ok there.

Also, what glue should I use to reattach the foam? Anything in particular or just a plain old super glue?

Charivari... Yeah, I check all the specs out on em before I got em, I was definatly all over em at 200 bucks for the pair. I think they retailed at over 500 a piece new.

I ran some tests and "Alieene's Tacky Glue" Appears to be the same or very similar to the surround glue PE sells. I cannot recomend Elmers of any variaty or wood glues as they dry brittle, not plyable, as the PE and Alieens do.

If your Sig Other doesn't already have some, You can get Aleenes as most any craft store, of possibly a scrapbooking store.

I ran some tests and "Alieene's Tacky Glue" Appears to be the same or very similar to the surround glue PE sells. I cannot recomend Elmers of any variaty or wood glues as they dry brittle, not plyable, as the PE and Alieens do.

If your Sig Other doesn't already have some, You can get Aleenes as most any craft store, of possibly a scrapbooking store.

WalMart her in Nc has it. Maybe in your area too.

You guys ROCK!!! I got the foam glued back onto yesterday and let it dry. Shes playin flawlessly!!! Saved me about 100 bucks on buying a new woofer for it. Now all I need is a good amp!!!

Same thing happened to my Ref 6 woofer & I wasn't so lucky - the foam had torn in several places. I can't imagine the entire foam ring can be replaced - anyone know whre I can get a replacement woofer?

That is EXACTLY what you do, replace the entire foam ring, with a new one.

A quick search on replacement surrounds will reveal many sources. PE, AKer ReEdger, Simply Surrounds, RSSound, and others, whose names escape me, for the moment. A great DIY project.

Oh, and Welcome to AK!

Same thing happened to my Ref 6 woofer & I wasn't so lucky - the foam had torn in several places. I can't imagine the entire foam ring can be replaced - anyone know whre I can get a replacement woofer?

I have a pair of REFERENCE SIX and replaced both sets of foam on the 10 inch woofers. It's not hard to do and a lot cheaper than buying a new woofer(if you could still find them). I bought my foam off ebay, but I believe there's a fellow AK'er who sells foam at a good price(I'm sure someone will chime in with his name since I'm not sure). :thmbsp:

See, I told you someone would chime in! :yes:

Same thing happened to my Ref 6 woofer & I wasn't so lucky - the foam had torn in several places. I can't imagine the entire foam ring can be replaced - anyone know whre I can get a replacement woofer?
It's actually easy to do, as already stated. What size are the woofs? The 10" and 12" kits seem to be easiest to locate.

Mine are 10". I'm a regular DIYer and not much afraid of trying anything. The only concern I have is aligning the motor coil and holding it in place while gluing the foam.
I don't know if this is possible to do without special equipment or even how to go about doing it.
I don't have a feel for how important it is, but it seems like it might be important. Any ideas?
Thanks for chiming in.

There are lots of threads on AK about refoaming woofers. It's relatively simple. I just plug them into an amp and play them at low volume while I'm glueing them up.

First glue the foam to the cone and let it dry. Hook it up with the woofer face up. Feel for the center and start gluing up the foam to the basket. This is where I turn on an amp at very low volume and let her play while I work. If you're hitting, you'll hear it.

The "right" way to do it is to remove the dust cap and put shims between the coil and the pole. I've never done it that way but it's how the "pros" do it.

Do a quick search and you'll find a ton of info.

Take care,

Ed

The only concern I have is aligning the motor coil and holding it in place while gluing the foam.I don't know if this is possible to do without special equipment or even how to go about doing it.
The woofer coils aren't detatched from the leads in the frame, are they? That's a bit harder to do, but can still be fixed for less trouble than hunting down a new woofer. Some solder(careful)should do the trick, if this is the case.

No, the woofer coils are fine. Playing them at soft volume while gluing (per Fast Eddie) seemed like a good idea as it might allow the coil to align to its center naturally. Otherwise it's $130 a pair to have them done professionally.

Hum, that's a pretty expensive quote for a refoam. Is there something about this woofer I don't know about? Anyone?

Hum, that's a pretty expensive quote for a refoam. Is there something about this woofer I don't know about? Anyone?

I doubt it.......but I was wrong once before.

No, the woofer coils are fine. Playing them at soft volume while gluing (per Fast Eddie) seemed like a good idea as it might allow the coil to align to its center naturally. Otherwise it's $130 a pair to have them done professionally.
I think I'll have to stick with Ed's idea here. I'm not a big fan of overspending:D

I doubt it.......but I was wrong once before.

Yeah, and I'm pretty sure it was the last time you agreed with me! :banana: