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Sbarber
06-02-2006, 03:50 AM
I have had mine since 1982, and still love them. Hey, this was a huge upgrade from the three way mid-seventies Cerwin-Vegas (can't remember the model number) that I had. Anyway, great speakers that sound as good today as the day I bought them. Anyone else here have this model or fond memories of them?
mhardy6647
06-02-2006, 05:30 AM
I have a pair of 1974 Cornwalls :-)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/mhardy6647/dampedcornyhornies.jpg
gonzp
06-02-2006, 06:24 AM
I have got a pair of 86 Herasys and a pair of 86 Scalas. I am driving the Herasys with an Almarro A318A and I am driving the Scalas with a pair of Craigs VRD's :thmbsp:
cruisaire
06-02-2006, 07:32 AM
My 83 Heresy's are presently running with the Magnavox 6V6 and Mr. Dave Brubeck (Far more Blues) here in the office. Mighty fine sound. Cornwalls someday.......
jcmjrt
06-02-2006, 10:03 AM
I have got a pair of 86 Herasys and a pair of 86 Scalas. I am driving the Herasys with an Almarro A318A and I am driving the Scalas with a pair of Craigs VRD's :thmbsp:
Craig's VRDs and the LaScalas certainly sound nice together and you can go to painful auditory levels if so desired. Craig proved both of those at AKFest. I like to have my hair blow in the breeze once in a while so I appreciate that ability.
I haven't heard the Almarro A318A and Heresy's.
pmsummer
06-02-2006, 11:15 AM
I have a pair of 1974 Cornwalls :-)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/mhardy6647/dampedcornyhornies.jpg
Mark,
How would you describe the effect (to your ears) of the putty rope on the mid-horn?
Thanks,
PM
mhardy6647
06-02-2006, 11:40 AM
I think it knocked back the resonance in the MR horn a bit, but I didn't carefully compare the "experiment" and the "control". The damping falls into the "couldn't hoit" category IMO, and it's readily reversible.
BTW, it's not a bad idea to go in once every couple of decades and tighten all the screws (holding the drivers and the XO board). Trust me on this :-)
pmsummer
06-02-2006, 11:45 AM
Thanks! Next time I open the tomb, I'll check 'em.
Speaking of XOs... that's an odd looking one you've got in there. Doesn't look like a Type B.
mhardy6647
06-02-2006, 12:38 PM
ummm... somewhere I wrote down the info that was on its label, but I don't remember. I do know that they're 1974's. They have "M" in the S/N's, and the PWK "pie wedge" logos. I got them from their original owner about a decade ago.
pmsummer
06-02-2006, 01:03 PM
Looks like a resistor and a cap. My 78's have the B with two caps (a 4 and a 2 IIRC) and no resistor.
BEC, are you watching? What about Mr. Hardy's XO?
simplynuts
06-02-2006, 03:18 PM
i have apair of klipsch heresys in raw birch, sealed finish. Bought them from the original owner whose husband wanted her to get rid of those big things. They have risers and a rounded finish trim on the front edge so you don't see the laminations. Wife doesn't like them, but I like the way they play rock music.Oh well she can't always win.
BECtoo
06-02-2006, 04:18 PM
Looks like a resistor and a cap. My 78's have the B with two caps (a 4 and a 2 IIRC) and no resistor.
BEC, are you watching? What about Mr. Hardy's XO?
Not sure, but it doesn't look like any Cornwall crossover I have seen. Should have a 4 uF and a 2 uF cap. Of course, I haven't spent a lot of time examining that picture he posted. Looking at that much rope caulk makes me queazy.
Bob Crites
BuckNaked
06-02-2006, 04:23 PM
Once upon a time I happened across a pair of Klipsch THSR-II.
I couldn't find much documentation. It was obvious they were an industrial line. I purchased them from an old movie house.
They started out as a two way unit. LF, MID (minus HF horn and lens) with a two way x-over.
I eventually sold them to a recording studio. I did enjoy them while they were here.
I won't even start on the one's I let get away.
joebeadg
06-02-2006, 04:39 PM
Yea, I got a pr. of Heresy II. about 84 maybe. I love them. Use a adcom 555 for an amp. Thinking of getting a tube amp, their supposed to sound nice with tubes. Their absolutly incredable when I add my velodyne sub.
silversport
06-02-2006, 11:30 PM
I have a pair of 1978 Vintage Birch Raw stained a dark walnut and a pair of 1980 Vintage Walnut Oiled...love them...all four have had the crossovers freshened by Bob Crites...really enjoy them...(The H-BRs singing powered by an EICO HF-81 and the H-WO are the mains in a HT system)
Bill
ldatlof
06-03-2006, 12:51 AM
I have pair that I bought in college in NOLA in 1984. I added a set of DeanG's 1st order constant slope XOs and a Magnavox Series 83 Amp (SE EL84). I run them off the 4 ohm tap (the only choice) and they sound excellent. The best they have sounded since I owned them.
j.4knee
06-03-2006, 09:14 AM
I have two pair of 86 Heresy II's performing my surround duty to back up my modded La Scala's. My entire rig is run dual purpose as a 2 channel and HT. I use a Yamaha RX V3300 to drive thte HT and a Scott 299B to drive the 2 channel rig. Even though the same mains are used the rigs are completely separate.
Blooze
06-03-2006, 11:15 AM
I picked up a pair at a garage sale today. They need some cabinet refinishing and new grills, but otherwise sound quite nice! $100 for the pair seemed like deal to me and they have the angled risers on the bottom to boot.
silversport
06-08-2006, 12:01 PM
I think you will be pleased...if they are oiled finish...give the BLO/Gum Turpentine mix a try to the finish (bathe them like when they were babies in Hope) and they might show a bit better...'course how they look does not affect how they sound...nice score.
Bill
jcmjrt
06-08-2006, 02:43 PM
I picked up a pair at a garage sale today. They need some cabinet refinishing and new grills, but otherwise sound quite nice! $100 for the pair seemed like deal to me and they have the angled risers on the bottom to boot.
Sounds like you got a very good deal. Many of them need some refinishing and people still want $300+.
Blooze
06-08-2006, 11:30 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/shaneybob/100_1889b.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/shaneybob/100_1888.jpg
Here's some quick and dirty pics I took the other day right after I got them home. The cabinets had just been dusted and not really cleaned yet and the grills both have the whitish haze to them at the bottom I can't get rid of. Hit some of the scratches (there weren't but a few) on the cabinets with a stain pen and that helps 100%.
pmsummer
06-09-2006, 05:29 AM
Stained birch. The white haze is dried/powdered glue residue. Use Bissel Upholstery Cleaner (blue cap) to clean 'em.
You lucky dog!
Blooze
06-09-2006, 07:08 AM
Got to checking on the Klipsch Forum and they are 1982 HBR models with E Xovers. Seems this is a decent year to have. They sound nice, but I'm definitely going to have to play with the placement quite a bit I think.
pmsummer
06-09-2006, 07:17 AM
Heresys do well with a sub-woofer. Big bass isn't their thing, but with a decent sub they will really sing.
jaymanaa
06-09-2006, 10:50 AM
My 82 Heresy's sing everyday. They get their signal from the Dyna in my avatar, which gets its from a Dyna Pat 4, which gets its from a Shure V15 III on a Dual. :D
Tinear
06-09-2006, 10:25 PM
I have a pair of raw birch Heresy's I purchased new in 1980. They've have been hooked up to an SAE TWO R6 receiver, but that is about to change soon when I swap in a Sansui G-9000... this should prove to be interesting.
Deang
06-11-2006, 06:49 AM
Someone mentioned seeing a resistor in the Cornwall network on the first page -- it's not, it's a cap. I did a rebuild for someone about a month ago who wanted me to use their old autoformers and woofer inductors, and I just had them send me the old boards -- and they looked identical to what's in that picture.
I think the Heresy is an earbleeder unless you have it on the floor and backed into a corner. Set up the way most people like to use them, a sub is non-negotiable. Without something to reinforce the non-existent bottom, it's almost mandatory to knock a bit off the top to get a sound that's balanced.
pmsummer
06-11-2006, 07:38 AM
Dean,
So that little thingie was a 2uf? And the biggun a 4uf?
DrWho
06-11-2006, 12:51 PM
I think the Heresy is an earbleeder unless you have it on the floor and backed into a corner. Set up the way most people like to use them, a sub is non-negotiable. Without something to reinforce the non-existent bottom, it's almost mandatory to knock a bit off the top to get a sound that's balanced.
Totally agree with you there.
Apparently the earlier Heresy I's were designed to be mounted in the corner to take advantage of the 3dB boundary gain (in other words, the woofer is naturally 3dB down). DJK gave me the specs a long time ago to convert over to a flat response like the H II's. It's just a different tap and then a resistor wired in somewhere. I've never gotten around to doing it though...
Blooze
06-11-2006, 07:37 PM
I think the Heresy is an earbleeder unless you have it on the floor and backed into a corner. Set up the way most people like to use them, a sub is non-negotiable. Without something to reinforce the non-existent bottom, it's almost mandatory to knock a bit off the top to get a sound that's balanced.
Can you recommend a commercial sub or DIY sub that mates well with the Heresy's? I don't have any usable corners in my house at present.
DrWho
06-12-2006, 02:02 AM
Can you recommend a commercial sub or DIY sub that mates well with the Heresy's? I don't have any usable corners in my house at present.
What kind of budget? And would you be looking for a stereo or mono subwoofer configuration?
Blooze
06-12-2006, 06:18 AM
Let's look at $500 or less, any configuration. If there's a DIY sub that I can build for $200 that's good too, no problem. I've got the tools to build about any type of cabinet.
Originally had a pair of '86 IIs then scored a pair of '72 models for a friend and liked the way the I sounded so much, I had to get a pair of '79 originals (from a guy who lives in Darien, CT - yeah, I asked him what he was doing with these and not a set of Bozaks.)
These speakers just throw the music at you - it flows through them with authority!
:thmbsp:
Essentially, any mono non-lazy sub flat to ~45 hertz will give you a sound similar to Cornwalls. :banana:
Jack Keck
06-27-2006, 08:26 AM
Let's look at $500 or less, any configuration. If there's a DIY sub that I can build for $200 that's good too, no problem. I've got the tools to build about any type of cabinet.
My DIY sub has this driver http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=295-560
Most people use it with this amp http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=300-804 and love the results. I have mine in a 5.5 (or so) ft.3 ported box, but you might prefer a sealed box for your Heresies. I use my sub in a HT system. I haven't tried it with my Heresies, which I think sound just fine without the sub.
You will note that the driver is currently on sale.
Depending on how you build the box, you can get this done for under $250 incl. materials, stuffing, etc..
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