Got the Sansui G-6000 today...

[Glenz75]

Hi all,

Picked the Sansui G-6000 today....Man what an impressive looking beast!! Its the same height and almost the same depth as my SX-1280 and its only 65 Watts a side!!:P:
If this is what the G-6000 is like then the G-9000, and the G22000,33000 must be awesome machines...

The quality of the build again is excellent..typical for old Sansui... although its the beginning of the end with the next run of models..thats where the 'cheapness' started.. :( Why Sansui went to the pack, quite sad really...
The power transformers huge, the size of the one in a 8080! Probably used the left overs from the 8080 range! hehe...
Sounds quality is good, smooth but with character.

Has anybody on here have the complete or close to range of Sansui/Pioneer?? Eg- the SX...50's series or the SX..80's series etc.. That'd be my ultimate goal.

Cheers
Glen

[Kamakiri]

Well, at one time I had a G-3000, G-5000, G-6000, G-901, and G-22000.......still have the two bigger ones. I miss my G-6000 a bit though, but bigmacc's giving it a good home :).

[THOR]

I have a G-7700 120wpc.

[Bigerik]

HI
Has there ever been any kind of consensus as to which of these Sansuis sounds the best? I remember one guy saying that the G-901 sounded substantially better than the G-9000 which is so very similar. ANy superior/inferior models in the G series?
How do they compare to the ever so famous 9090?
Thanks!
Erik

[Drybasement]

Originally posted by THOR
I have a G-7700 120wpc.

Me too!

And a G-4500 which I use out in the garage.

[Shain]

Had a G-2000, 3000, and 5000, but sold them all.
Looking now for a real nice 9090DB.

What do the G 9000's generally go for? Aren't they 160 wpc?

Aren't the G 9700, 7700, etc., ... digital display?

[Kamakiri]

To answer your G-9000/G-901 question, Todd Krieger made a very good review of the G-901 on AR. I could pick out what he was talking about after listening to both receivers side by side....there is a different characteristic to the G-901 that is unmistakeable.

Essentially, I'm beginning to realize that aside from power differences (and the lower end of the lines), most receivers sound the same....for example, the Pioneer SX-838 sounds pretty much the same as the SX-1010.....the G-6000 sounds the same as the G-9000. The big difference there is power output, and controls (although there are some other tuner or perhaps quality differences), but all in all the tonal characteristics are the same in my opinion.

[BeatleFred]

Hi Glen- Congrats on the G-6000, I'm sure it will provide you with many hours of listening pleasure.

I wish I could write more but I am having problems with this Site.
If I spend more than about 10 minutes typing a message, when I go to post it, I get an error message from this Site and I lose the whole thing. I checked Tools Options Privacy on the pc- I had the slider all the way on the bottom (about accepting cookies), so I dont know why I am getting automatically logged out sometime during the time that I am writing a message. It only happens on this Site. Just lost two messages before and about 45 minutes down the drain. Maybe I have no choice but to write in Word and transfer it over here but I wish this annoying problem could be corrected. I wanted to answer the questions brought up regarding the G models, 9090 etc... but I'm getting tired of seeing all my work go to waste.

[Drybasement]

Originally posted by Shain
Had a G-2000, 3000, and 5000, but sold them all.
Looking now for a real nice 9090DB.

What do the G 9000's generally go for? Aren't they 160 wpc?

Aren't the G 9700, 7700, etc., ... digital display?

Shain,

The 9700, 7700, etc,.... have both. A full analog display with the digital display above and to the right. They also have digital tuning and signal strength meters. The G-x7xx are pretty cool IMO. The last real quality in a great line of Sansui receivers. BeatleFred can tell ya, it's all down hill for Sansui after the G series.

The 9000's are indeed 160 wpc and average around $400 on eBay.

[Kamakiri]

Hey BF, I don't get it :confused:, but I want to help. Try it on another computer, and tell me if it's any different.

Anyone else having that problem :confused:

[BeatleFred]

Better start typing fast, as the clock is ticking while I type before I get logged out. Well, I put in my order at www.NewEgg.com to upgrade my system- hopefully that'll correct the problem. Time to retire the stuff from 1999: Abit BH6 motherboard, with overclocked Celeron- 450Mhz. New system: KX733R Abit motherbd, 1.8Ghz AMD cpu, 512 Ram (Samsung) and Windows XP.

[BeatleFred]

DB- I agree with you for the most part but "all downhill" is perhaps a bit too exagerrated, See my coments in reply to Grumpy's post 'Sansui Question' of July 18 about the 9900Z...3900Z Line. And as you know, all was not bad with Sansui---> your AU-D11II from 1983/84 for example. Different story between their 80's receivers & integrated amps.

[Walt]

BF -

sounds like a good upgrade to me ...

However your problems with this site will be related to one of the settings you have in your browser.

If you have checked that you have enabled acceptance of cookies, and you can't find anything else, why not try a full reinstall of the OS?

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Just a suggestion ...

;)

[BeatleFred]

To quickly answer the previous questions: Yes, the G-9000 was 160W. Avg selling price on Ebay, $400. If in great cond with alot of enthusiastic bidding, $500 wouldnt surprise me. G-9700...4700 Line added digital quartz tuning (as most audio manufacturers did in 1980). Tuner background is now dark color, and power meters are led "ladder" style ones. Also note the green 'Safely Operate' led- useful for certain individuals such as our own, Thor:) The illuminated Sansui logo is a wee bit smaller on the G "700's" as well as the pushbuttons being more thinner & rectangular shaped- than on the previous two generations- which were square shaped.

[BeatleFred]

Hi Walt, well, I'll see how it goes when the stuff I ordered arrives and I put it in. Will probably have a dual OS system- keep Windows 98 SE I have now as well as the new XP I'll be installing.

[BeatleFred]

There are some other things I observed in comparing the 9090DB...5050 Line to the G 's. What I like about the 9090DB- excellent weighted feel to tuning dial, illuminated needle pointer, TWO headphone jacks- thats very generous, illuminated function select settings on the tuner display, 3 speaker terminals though you cant do A+B+C. What I dont like is the concentric balnce control- if you need to adjust that, its too easy to accidentally turn up the Volume control. Also the common tendency for the tuner display to dim. And no separate A, B, C speakers switch selection (all on same switch). Oh and under the Good category, I'd put the nice blue & yellow meters- very pleasing to the eye.

[BeatleFred]

The G models have separate speaker select buttons. Click stop Volume which is nice (though not as nice as the AU-717- and calibrated in DB to boot). Oddly enough, the 9090 Line-- there's no numbers around the Volume control at all! The G models have the absolutely GORGEOUS illuminated Sansui logo on the tuner display- whoever designed that - that was brilliant! But considering how large the round tuning dial is, I'm surprised it doesnt have more of a nice glided feel when turning it. Hafta give credit to Pioneer about this- as its excelent on my SX-980 and 780, with click stop and DB scale on my SX-980.

[bully]

Someone over on AU posted pix and comparos of his several TOTL Sansui receivers. 9700, 9090, 9000, 901. Anyone remember that?
Seems like he liked the 901/9000 in that order, then 9700/9090.

Pete

[BeatleFred]

The G's dont suffer from the tuner display dimming problem as the 9090...5050 does and also the QRX-7001. Interesting is that the Model 8 Receiver (thats going back 30 years)- when you switch the function select to Aux or phono, the switch is such that it shuts off the entire tuner display! That takes some getting used to as you keep thinking the receiver is Off when its really stilll On. And for an unknown reason, the Model 8 comes with a detachable power cord. Its not something you want to lose as they are hard to find and they are of an unusual size- some reel to reel machines have a similar cord but they are just slightly bigger than the Model 8 cord and wont fit in the socket.

[BeatleFred]

The G-901 is the overseas version of the G-9000. While I know that there are Speakers manufactured specifically for the European market and their different preference in sound quality (The Infinity Kappa 90 vs the Renaissance 90 for example), I dunno if there is such a drastic difference between Euro and US model Receivers. I will read the review that was mentioend in a previous post about the G-901 vs 9000.

[BeatleFred]

And what I wanted to say to Erik: its not a matter of one model in a Line being better and another not so good. They are all fine. Its just that as you go higher up in the Line (and thats ANY Line be it Sansui, Pioneer, or the G-2000...G-33000, or 5050...9090DB) you get more of what you pay for. The circuitry becomes more elaborate and sophisticated, and you'll have things like separate power supplies, larger capacitors, advanced protection circuitry, high precision phono section for better tonal quality. More features such as extra tape jacks and/or separate pre/power amp sections. Amplifier specs such as slew rate, rise time, s/n ratio and so forth- all will be better on the higher-up amps. How much your ears will detect this is a matter of controversy but these specs can be measured in a Lab using the proper test equipment. Keep in mind though, a lower power receiver paired with very efficient speakers is equivalent to a higher power amp hooked up to very inefficient speakers.

[thoots]

BeatleFred,

Good news about your upgrade. Something is definitely wrong with your browser somewhere -- whether it be settings, maybe even difficulties with the overclocking -- whatever. Given the way the browser is integrated into the OS (presuming you're using Internet Explorer), it really probably would take a newly-installed OS to get you back on track. That XP install ought to take care of that very well -- here's hoping that you'll finally see an end to your problems with these online forums!! :p:

[Drybasement]

Originally posted by BeatleFred
DB- I agree with you for the most part but "all downhill" is perhaps a bit too exagerrated, See my coments in reply to Grumpy's post 'Sansui Question' of July 18 about the 9900Z...3900Z Line. And as you know, all was not bad with Sansui---> your AU-D11II from 1983/84 for example. Different story between their 80's receivers & integrated amps.

Hi Fred,

I was referring to the receivers only. And I agree, the integrated amps had a much better build quality to them later into the 80's versus the receivers. And while my comment "all downhill" may appear a bit exagerrated, I think all mass market companies had there difficulties during that time. Like many companies, they sacrificed quality for cheaper parts and materials and it ultimately lead to thier demise.

Take care Fred.

[Glenz75]

I have heard thru my contacts that there seem to be a few G-9000's floating around... hopefully I stumble across one of those one day...

Gee I like this G-6000... nice...nice machine :D :D

Why can't they make things like this still??:dunno:

Cheers
Glen

[ckelly]

The problem is cost:

look at this link from Sansui Japan - a re edition of the Sansui AU-111:

http://www.sansui-jpn.co.jp/newproduct/contents.html

:eek: US$4038 dollars!!!

Chris

[Glenz75]

Yes I see what you mean about that! That is a lot of $$$ to fork out for an amp!, but being tube too, puts the price up also.

Just imagine if Sansui/Pioneer decided to reprduce say and SX1250,1280,1980 or a Sansui G-9000 today!!??

You might as well remortgage or sell your house just to buy the dam things!!

I think I'll just stick to collecting old hifi, its cheaper..hehe..:)

Have a good day!
Glen :)

[bully]

Lest we forget, the SX-1250 retailed for $950 in 1978. Figure that in 2002 dollars.
Acurus has a very nice 150 wpc receiver, it sells for about $1500. My 1980-81 Sansui G-9700 retailed for $1100.
Something built like the SX-1250 today, yeah, probably looking at a ticket for $3000. Still, a better deal now than then!

:eek:

pete

[Glenz75]

Yep I could agree more with that statement :):)
Also the fact that the 'quality' stuff is no longer made makes us appreciate the gear we have saved a lot more too..

Long Live Vintage HIFI! :D :D :D

Have a groovy day all! ;)

Glen

[toddrr]

well i have a 901 db. the sound is quite amazing. I have
run in on platinum audio solo's to vintage gear dbx, and
infinity. I have not been able to compare the 901 to
any other g series reciever. however i did own a 7070
at the same time, and i can tell you that the 901 sounded
infinity better. I would say 60%. keep that in mind when
you look on the bay.

also a g 8000 just sold for $520

i would recommend any of the g series recievers, because of
the beauty and quality of them. light bulbs do tend to burn
out though, so pick up some extra's

blessings

[wje]

Keep in mind that this thread is 3+ years old and was bumped earlier today. Some of the prices discussed earlier in the postings may not apply today.

[toddrr]

thanks

new to the site and just noticed that the
new threads start at the end

[mayorbill11]

there are options at the bottom to re-sort the threads.

[ManFromPorlock]

Lest we forget, the SX-1250 retailed for $950 in 1978. Figure that in 2002 dollars.
Acurus has a very nice 150 wpc receiver, it sells for about $1500. My 1980-81 Sansui G-9700 retailed for $1100.
Something built like the SX-1250 today, yeah, probably looking at a ticket for $3000.

FYI, $1000 in 1978 equates to $2897 in 2004 (latest available date), using the CPI.