Well, I've been the recepient of what you may or may not consider offensive remarks... we have a boombox at work and when I bring in my music collection, a few of my fellow workers have commented that I was in a sense "white washed"...

well, I'm a second generation Japanese Canadian born and raised in the Greater Van area; so anyhow, I enjoy my Pantera/Slayer/Megadeth/Metallica/Motley Crue etc but it seems to me that you have to be white to enjoy rock/metal. I thought music was simply a matter of individual preference and nothing more... anyone like to comment?

Interesting. I've been to MANY a metal concert, and they've been populated with as many different races as ages. Sounds like your co-workers have been 'brain'washed by some dumbass ideas.

These issues are everywhere, unfortunately. I like all kinds of music, and I don't care about the race/generation/ethnicity/etc. of the people who made it.

Let's be very careful in this thread, OK, guys?

Consider the source......................
(meaning your co-workers)

I might say something about your musical choices, seeing as I'm an old fart and missed the 80s and 90s pretty much.
Your co-workers seem to have the problem, not you. Hell, you're a Canuck, fer chrissakes. Probably drink beer, too :D

yeah true... I enjoy my local craft brews :P

More and more these days, there seems to be an issue regarding race and music.

Strange.

I like beer, I'm half japanese, and I have a penchant for jazz, rare grooves and soul.

You might hear me walking down your street with my HUGE Audiophile-Quality national/Panasonic RX-7000 Boombox bumpin' sh*t loud!

Enjoy what you enjoy. Life is too short my friend.



National/Panasonic RX-7000... Note the Walnut sides and VU meters! Real street-cred with astonishing sound!

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I've always found it rather odd that there seemingly aren't many Orientals in the pop music scene...Especially considering how well some Western acts have done there... GnRNut, I think yr co-workers have their heads firmly planted up their posteriors...

I thought music was simply a matter of individual preference and nothing more...

Assert yourself and tell them pricks where to shove it.

Cheerio

I have no other comment than to pay attention to what RichPA said above.

Guess they never heard of Fishbone?

When I read the title, I thought this was going to be a Nascar thread. :D

Enjoy your music. I'm thankful for diversity in music and elsewhere.

Sounds like your co-workers are showing their true colors and small minds.

Next time just tell them how lucky they are. If me or toze or Alan brought our twangy collection, no telling what they'd say. :scratch2:

JD

I'd pull out my Homer 'n' Jethro albums, & it'd be all over for 'em...or maybe my Leroy Mercer "Huh....I'll Whoop Yer Ass !"....

I gots Bobby Bare singing Shel Silverstein songs that would kick their ass.

Well, I've been the recepient of what you may or may not consider offensive remarks... we have a boombox at work and when I bring in my music collection, a few of my fellow workers have commented that I was in a sense "white washed"...

well, I'm a second generation Japanese Canadian born and raised in the Greater Van area; so anyhow, I enjoy my Pantera/Slayer/Megadeth/Metallica/Motley Crue etc but it seems to me that you have to be white to enjoy rock/metal. I thought music was simply a matter of individual preference and nothing more... anyone like to comment?

Let me preface this by saying I'm not all that fond of heavy metal. I listen to and play music that ranges from Stravinsky to Kanye West. I live in the inner city by choice and my neighbors frequently comment about the "white" music I listen to. They also complain when I play "Trane" doing My Favorite Things. I make no excuses or explanations for my musical tastes. Please don't take offense at this but is rock/metal the only thing you listen to? If it is, you are really no different than those who are calling you white washed. Listening to only one type of music doesn't say much for someones scope and broad mindedness. Although I said I am not that fond of heavy metal I have one or more CD's or LP's by all the groups you mentioned. I also have 46 Miles Davis CD's and LP's all of the Allman Brothers Recordings, Blind Faith, Led Zeppelin, The Isley Brothers, Stevie Wonder, John Mayer, Joanie Mitchell and others to numerous to mention. Do you have or listen to any other music types than what you mentioned? If not you are ignoring an awful lot of very good music. There are only two kinds of music, good and bad and opinions on a lot of it depend on personal taste. I personally can't stand most bluegrass or most solo piano but I know who Bill Munroe and Van Kliburn are. A couple of their recordings are in my collection I might add. :thmbsp:
I suggest you try to expand your taste and at the same time try to expand the tastes of your co-workers. Listening to only one kind of music is eventually boring and stagnates the mind. Expand your scope. Open up and listen to everything with an open mind. BTW your co-workers should be told much the same thing. Neither they or you have to answer to anyone about their musical tastes. :smoke:

If me or toze or Alan brought our twangy collection, no telling what they'd say. :scratch2:

JD


Have you fellas ever heard of The Hellecasters? :scratch2:

Serious twang. :D

Have you fellas ever heard of The Hellicasters? :scratch2:

Serious twang. :D

No, but I'm going to go search the net now.

JD

Your co-workers need a lesson in humanity/common sense and a few
other things I won't get into. Were in this mess together. As a supervisor
at a large company, there are legal avenues you can take if
that Bullshit continues. BTY, your taste in tunes is right with mine to
a T, some people love it with me, some just tolerate it, there's never
anything beyond that. It also works the other way to on my part.
Anyway, hang in there.

I've always found it rather odd that there seemingly aren't many Orientals in the pop music scene...Especially considering how well some Western acts have done there... GnRNut, I think yr co-workers have their heads firmly planted up their posteriors...


But there are many Japanese rock groups but they never made it in the US because of translation problems. I wrote about and photographed rock concerts for a Japanese publication in the 70s and I always received a copy of the magazine every month and there were plenty of Japanese rock groups. Fortunately one of the editors spoke English fairly fluently and translated some of the better articles for me. He also gave me a bunch of records when we finally met in NYC. I couldn't understand the lyrics but the music was quite varied and sounded damn good.

The Japanese were always huge fans of English/American rock.

When I read the title, I thought this was going to be a Nascar thread. :D <SNIP>
:lmao: Me too, JD!

GnRnut, just blow those guys off and don't let it bug you. some people just can't see past the end of their stereotype... uh... I mean NOSE. :D

(You could always bring some Danish Goth Metal and see how much whiter they think you are then!)

But there are many Japanese rock groups but they never made it in the US because of translation problems. I wrote about and photographed rock concerts for a Japanese publication in the 70s and I always received a copy of the magazine every month and there were plenty of Japanese rock groups. Fortunately one of the editors spoke English fairly fluently and translated some of the better articles for me. He also gave me a bunch of records when we finally met in NYC. I couldn't understand the lyrics but the music was quite varied and sounded damn good.

The Japanese were always huge fans of English/American rock.

Two that I can think of are EZO and Loudness. I was a fan of both! I can think of some modern rock bands with Asian musicians as well. Linkin Park and Dream Theater to name two more. All your co-workers did was help to get you riled up by making you feel self-conscious about your tastes. Taste knows no boundaries, so don't start second-guessing your own. Live and love(music)! :music:

Well, I've been the recepient of what you may or may not consider offensive remarks... we have a boombox at work and when I bring in my music collection, a few of my fellow workers have commented that I was in a sense "white washed"...

anyone like to comment?
You work with pinheads who haven't or will ever have a clue. You have to keep it to yourself or get another job sorry to say. Anything you say will work against you with these cretins.
Venting to your AK friends is a good way to keep your sanity. :thmbsp:



Danish Goth Metal
:confused: I wish!


Carl

I agree that the language barrier might be a reason as to why you don't hear too much asian stuff out in the occidental world.

There always was and still is lots of jazz pouring out of Japan. Go to any record shop in Tokyo and you will be STUNNED at the massive ultra-rare jazz selections available for purchase.

There always has been a plethora of death metal/hardcore/psychedelic bands as well. Some old, some new. Examples being Acid Mother's Temple, Zeni Geva, The Ruins, Boredoms, etc...

Nowadays, with the reign of electronic music and DJs, how about the internationally-known DJ Krush?

Or, for the best of the best, how about the seriously amazing UA? No need to understand japanese; her music, her voice and her instrument skills will speak to anybody - regardless of nationality.

Anyhow, there is lots out there, but again, the language barrier presents somewhat of a problem. This is one reason why DJ Krush is popular all over the world, his music is mainly instrumental.



Who cares what others think/say.

March to the beat of your own drum - doesn't matter if it's a Tama double-bass drum or a boomin' Roland 808 bass drum kick.



:music: :music: :music: :music: :music: :thmbsp:

Stereotypes

Where did that word come from?

Variety is the spice of life.

Anybody who would voice an opinion like that out loud is a person who I wouldn't bother to take too seriously.

If they mean you don't like RAP, I would take that as a compliment.

The next time it's your turn to feed the boombox, stick in a copy of Barry Manilow's Greatest Hits and, at the top of your lungs, sing along with "I write the songs" with a Japanese accent. Then ask them if they's rather hear Metallica..."See? Life can be a lot worse guys..."

Seriously, differences in musical tastes in a mixed environment is one reason the Walkman, iPod, etc. were invented.

As far as your betraying your ethnicity somehow, that's silly. The Stones, Beatles, etc. would never have existed if they'd never listened to R&B, reggae was born out of Marley's listening to syncopated jazz at night over WWL-870, New Orleans, Elvis singing gospel, etc. just to name a couple of artists who "betrayed" their ethnicities.

Are you sure your co-workers are serious? Or are they just kidding around? It's hard for me to imagine working in such an environment.

Stereotypes

Where did that word come from?

Variety is the spice of life.

you know, "Stereotypes" - Marantz, Sansui, Pioneer, Yamaha, McIntosh...

ah...I like them all

Y'all listen to music on your hi-fi's? I listen to sine waves only. Heck, after a few days, you don't even have to turn the stereo on to hear 'em.

I was at the movies last night,and before the movie they showed an Alan Jackson music video,and the guy behind me kept making comments directed towards me about how I must be loving this,speaking with an exagerated hillbilly twang.Being that I a)am not a southerner or "redneck",whatever that means,and b)dont listen to country on a regular basis,and c)probably listen to a lot of the same rap and r and b artists I assume he listens to,I just laughed,and realized stupidity is really color blind.
Jimmy

Let me preface this by saying I'm not all that fond of heavy metal. I listen to and play music that ranges from Stravinsky to Kanye West. I live in the inner city by choice and my neighbors frequently comment about the "white" music I listen to. They also complain when I play "Trane" doing My Favorite Things. I make no excuses or explanations for my musical tastes. Please don't take offense at this but is rock/metal the only thing you listen to? If it is, you are really no different than those who are calling you white washed. Listening to only one type of music doesn't say much for someones scope and broad mindedness. Although I said I am not that fond of heavy metal I have one or more CD's or LP's by all the groups you mentioned. I also have 46 Miles Davis CD's and LP's all of the Allman Brothers Recordings, Blind Faith, Led Zeppelin, The Isley Brothers, Stevie Wonder, John Mayer, Joanie Mitchell and others to numerous to mention. Do you have or listen to any other music types than what you mentioned? If not you are ignoring an awful lot of very good music. There are only two kinds of music, good and bad and opinions on a lot of it depend on personal taste. I personally can't stand most bluegrass or most solo piano but I know who Bill Munroe and Van Kliburn are. A couple of their recordings are in my collection I might add. :thmbsp:
I suggest you try to expand your taste and at the same time try to expand the tastes of your co-workers. Listening to only one kind of music is eventually boring and stagnates the mind. Expand your scope. Open up and listen to everything with an open mind. BTW your co-workers should be told much the same thing. Neither they or you have to answer to anyone about their musical tastes. :smoke:

Wow, 58 and listen to Kanye West ? Actually, I second a lot of what you said. I'm 50 and listen to everything from Stravinsky to Van Halen to Fela Anikulapo-Kuti to Snoop Dogg. I actually like solo piano and pipe organ, and take in the VanCliburn competition on public TV. I like to think of myself and approaching all genres of music with an open mind and embracing many. :thmbsp: