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Filmboydoug
08-31-2006, 11:10 AM
If I dig Nightwish, Therion, Lacuna Coil, Leaves Eyes, Sirenia, Epica, and The Crest, who else should I check out? :scratch2:

Drybasement
08-31-2006, 01:23 PM
Cruachan, the albums Folk-Lore or the new album Pagan. Both very good.

A bit of a diversion, but you could try some Dead Soul Tribe. No femme vox but it will rock your world.

Anathema's A Fine Day To Exit is another great album. Again, no femme vox, just dark and brooding with some excellent guitar riffs.

Then there's always Opeth if you can get past the cookie monster vocals. Bone crushing riffs. Excellent musicianship.

I'm sure Carl will chime in shortly. He's the expert on the gothic with heavenly voice music scene.

Cheers

MitsuMan
08-31-2006, 01:28 PM
would you guys speak english please? :scratch2:

Drybasement
08-31-2006, 01:39 PM
would you guys speak english please? :scratch2:

No habla englais. :)

Celt
08-31-2006, 02:21 PM
If you want to try something a bit different (aka a weird mix of genre's) try The Munk's "Heartbreak Numbers". It's my current fav.

CarlV
08-31-2006, 02:51 PM
OK, I'll play some. I will start off with some related to yours.

Leaves Eyes - OK, Liv Kristine (Espenaes Hull) have you checked out any Theatre Of Tragedy? (pre Leave's Eyes) The original beauty and the beast goth metal group.
I like them all except Musique and I have not heard Assembly(kinda techno pop). New TOT w/o Liv Kristine is very good, went back to older style pretty much, good new singer. Leave's Eyes is touring with Blind Guardian in the US this year very soon or already.

Midnattsol - Where Twighlight Dwells
Liv's little sister Carmen Elyse Espeneas sings. She is not Liv by any means but
has a great sparkle in her voice, great songs, guitar work, medieval folk oriented.

Tristania, this is Morton Velund's group pre Sirenia. From Widows Weeds on to the new one - post Morten - Ashes are excellent

After Forever - Mark Jansen's group before Epica. All good, Decipher is awesome and on LP too.

The Aerium - Song For A Dead King.
A very young Russian group ie:18ish. True Soprano lead vocals all in English
Their label folded, could get hard to find soon. They do have a new label that may issue this. Maybe a new album soon.

Within Temptation - Sharon Den Adel's voice is just great. She must have 5 octave range but not trained. No bad songs ever.

There ya go, a decent start. Darren's has great ideas too. :)
There is a lot in this genre that the US record companies are keeping from us.
Maybe more later,
Carl

Drybasement
08-31-2006, 03:43 PM
There is a lot in this genre that the US record companies are keeping from us.

Ain't that the truth. There's tons of great music, other genres included, originating in the UK, Europe and Scandinavia that are relatively unknown in the US. And it doesn't have to be that way.

The US market is terrible. I've been buying music from 'across the pond' artists for years now.

Dusty Chalk
08-31-2006, 03:45 PM
I definitely second the Within Temptation, Theatre of Tragedy and After Forever recommendations.

Therion leads me to suggest Lacrimosa -- Echos is a good place to start.

Lacuna Coil was accused of being a Gathering clone -- you should try their harder albums, like Nighttime Birds and Mandylion.

I like Flowing Tears, that should fit in well.

And if you don't mind a bit of poppiness, try Lullacry.

White Willow got pretty hard on their third album, Storm Season, but the earlier albums might be a little too lite for you. I haven't heard Signal to Noise yet.

And I'll have to check out the Crest myself, as that is the only group in the original list I haven't heard yet. And I'll have to check out some of Carl's recommendations.

Great thread! :evil:

CarlV
08-31-2006, 03:59 PM
Yes, Mandylion is a great album of The Gathering! :)
Therion leads me to suggest Lacrimosa -- Echos is a good place to start. :yes:
I like Flowing Tears, that should fit in well. :yes:
White Willow and Crest I need to check out.
Macbeth's Vanitas album, both Sengir, Penumbra, Elis, Xandria.
The Sins Of Thy Beloved - Lake Of Sorrows - buy this!
If you like folk metal and do not mind everything in Norwegian - Lumsk - buy both of their albums, steller stuff!

break time



Carl

CarlV
09-01-2006, 12:35 PM
If I dig Nightwish, Therion, Lacuna Coil, Leaves Eyes, Sirenia, Epica, and The Crest, who else should I check out? :scratch2:
Well, I ordered a The Crest cd this morning. Found White Willow's site and I liked all the clips I heard though more of a proggish thing.(?)



Carl

Dusty Chalk
09-01-2006, 02:08 PM
Yeah, they're a bit more proggy than everything else listed. If one wants to go more in a poppy direction, I would recommend Curve and Garbage.

CarlV
09-01-2006, 03:38 PM
If one wants to go more in a poppy direction, I would recommend Curve and Garbage.
:no:
Kamelot is kind a prog crossover. Mark Jansen took his group's name directly
from their Epica album. Both are touring the USA together soon.
Kamelot's latest The Black Halo is darn good stuff.


Carl

Urizen
09-09-2006, 02:53 PM
It gonna be a great Saturday! My gf is out of town, and I have the house to myself. Thanks to the recs above I picked up today:

Anathema - Pentecost III, The Crestfallen EP
Therion - Of Darkness
The Gathering - Mandylion
Theatre of Tragedy - Storm
Kamelot - The Black Halo
Leaves' Eyes - Vinland Saga

Now, off to crack a cold one and start the music. Hmmm, what to start with... :music:

Thanks guys!

And for the original poster, check out Ayreon. It's heavy on the prog side, but has some great musicianship and stellar vocals, both male and female.

You could start with:

Into The Electric Castle
The Human Equation
The Universal Migrator

All are excellent, IMHO, and well recorded.

Regards,

Ken

CarlV
09-09-2006, 07:04 PM
Ken, you enjoy your new albums? :) Any dislikes?
I like the new Ayreon a lot too, Stream Of Passion (http://www.ayreon.com/streamofpassion/marcela.php)


Carl

Filmboydoug
09-09-2006, 07:28 PM
This thread has stuck around longer than I thought it would so I retitled it.

Urizen
09-09-2006, 07:33 PM
This thread has stuck around longer than I thought it would so I retitled it.

Thanks for the thread. :thmbsp:

Dusty Chalk
09-10-2006, 06:17 PM
There's a new Ayreon album? All right! I loved Human Equation, it's going to be hard to top that one.

EDIT: Oh, okay, the name of the "band" (/project) is called Stream of Passion, album name is Embrace the Storm.

Filmboydoug
11-17-2006, 12:27 AM
OK, After listening to Therion's Secret Of The Runes for a while now I proclaim it a big winner. I like a few of the cuts on Lemuria/Sirius B a little more, but I think Secret Of The Runes is a little more coherent overall. Some of the vocals are a little Gregorian for me but I still dig it alot.

Mystic
12-11-2006, 02:40 AM
All,

You have collectively named a pile of excellent dark/goth metal (and some not-metal) recordings - I agree w/ all who praised Within Temptation; this band has not made a bad album, hell I'm not sure they've even made a bad song.

I'd like to put in a good word for a few others:

Ataraxia - "Lost Atlantis"
Stoa - "Porto VIII" and "Urthona"
Tristesse de la Lune - "A Heart Whose Love is Innocent"
Haggard - "Eppur Si Muove" (you must check this out if you haven't already, it is amazing)

Of course if it wasn't alerady mentioned, the Heavenly Voices series (5 volumes) is, well, heavenly.

CarlV
12-11-2006, 12:36 PM
Thanks for the new to me names to check out Mystic. :)
Haggard - "Eppur Si Muove" (you must check this out if you haven't already, it is amazing)
I ordered that from Amazon.de just to get it ASAP when it came out. The Wacken sound check video with it is pretty cool too.
In A Pale Moon Shadow will always be my favorite Haggard piece. :yes:
I just got my mitts on a mp3:sigh: of Haggard's first EP but yet to listen to it.
It will be interesting to hear them as a death metal band.
Within Temptation; this band has not made a bad album, hell I'm not sure they've even made a bad song.
Got all of them, no dogs!


Carl

CarlV
12-11-2006, 12:42 PM
In A Pale Moon Shadow will always be my favorite Haggard piece.
Actually, one of my favorite pieces of music period.



Carl

pmsummer
12-11-2006, 01:39 PM
Roots Music.

http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000063RVT.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V1116351778_.jpg

http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/B00000IFOM.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V1116149327_.jpg

CarlV
12-11-2006, 01:45 PM
:confused:



Carl

Billo
12-11-2006, 02:57 PM
Probably the best place to search for new music styles is to surf Eouropean record sites.
As mentioned before, there music diversity is much broader than our own.
( Richer might be a better word)
I have even purchassed German recording in which I don't understand a word but do enjoy there music. Many of these foriegn bands do record in english though/
Haggard
Hoopy Frood
and my all time favorite Shpongle' Tales of the inexspressable"
If one only listens to 30 sec downloads they only get a fraction of where each song goes.

3-LockBox
12-13-2006, 01:57 PM
There's a new Ayreon album? All right! I loved Human Equation, it's going to be hard to top that one.

EDIT: Oh, okay, the name of the "band" (/project) is called Stream of Passion, album name is Embrace the Storm.

I'll have to investigate this new project. I wasn't to thrilled with The Human Equation (not a fan of opera styled rock albums--loved Universal Migrator though).

CarlV
12-13-2006, 02:26 PM
2006 has been a folk metal year at my house. Arkona is one of them. I was able to get all their albums. The End Records is supposed to release these all
next year giving them distribution outside of the Russian Federation. Really excellent music IMO. The Russian pagan folk influence gives them a great unique flavor. Alkonost is another amazing great find as well. I have 2 of theirs so far.


Carl

Billo
12-13-2006, 02:59 PM
Has anybody tied Pandora.Com to find music which resembles that which one likes.

CarlV
12-13-2006, 03:10 PM
Has anybody tied Pandora.Com to find music which resembles that which one likes.
Totally sucks in my experience. There are many on topic threads on this a search will yield.


Carl

Dusty Chalk
12-13-2006, 03:13 PM
Yeah, I (heart) Pandora. Use it all the time.

Mystic
12-14-2006, 08:14 PM
Carl wrote:

"2006 has been a folk metal year at my house. Arkona is one of them. I was able to get all their albums. The End Records is supposed to release these all
next year giving them distribution outside of the Russian Federation. Really excellent music IMO. The Russian pagan folk influence gives them a great unique flavor. Alkonost is another amazing great find as well."

Carl: I haven't had an opportunity to listen to any of the new Russian folk metal, but I am very interested in it. Are you familiar with some of the Finnish folk metal, e.g., Korpiklaani, or maybe Falkenbach (not all folk, but a generous
dose of folk-metal influence)? Arkona's album titles suggest that their
work might have a bit of a spiritual bent. Beautiful artwork, BTW.

Past folk metal, I do heartily recommend to all the first couple of albums from the Norwegian band Tristania: Widow's Weeds and Beyond the Veil. Great blend of vocal styles, choirs, smooth synth, sweet violins, killer rhythms and that nice Nordic growl.

wajobu
12-14-2006, 08:34 PM
Left Field..apologies

Esquivel - Space Age Bachelor Pad Music (a bit old school)
Sparklehorse - It's a Wonderful Life (Dog Door...duet with Tom Waits)

...better "learn" me on this other stuff...always up for new things.

CarlV
12-15-2006, 12:27 AM
Tristania: Widow's Weeds and Beyond the Veil. Great blend of vocal styles, choirs, smooth synth, sweet violins, killer rhythms and that nice Nordic growl.
World Of Glass too. :)
Yes, great stuff and they fired Morton Veland who wrote most of their material, male vocals and guitar. He formed Sirenia and you will get the same
sound from him there. The Tristania album Ashes is without him and a different group.
Are you familiar with some of the Finnish folk metal, e.g., Korpiklaani, or maybe Falkenbach (not all folk, but a generous
dose of folk-metal influence)?
Yes, I have all Falkenbach albums and they are recommended. Same with
Korpiklaani, great stuff. Viking folk, not as heavy as most Finntroll, there is Thor's Hammer for full tilt Viking metal. I like Finntroll as well. Silentium is another Finnish Goth metal band that has a fair amount of folk influence in a fair amount of their music. Thier albums do differ in they do different styles.

As far as Russian folk metal I have and like Arkona, I will list their My Space
that has samples here (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=111326464).

Don't be scared by the Cyrillic. ;)
Their site here (http://arkona.heavymusic.ru/diskography/)has their DVD in .wmv format you can download and make a VCD if you like. More song samples too. Poke around, hopefully you have your browser's status page going as it will give you some help in English.
Alkonost is a recent find and I like them a lot too, have 2 of their albums. Their website here (http://alkonost.ru/songs/) and old site here (http://alkonost.narod.ru/world.htm) have quite a few
complete songs in mp3 you can listen to. Almost an album's worth.

I need to add Germany's In Extremo. They use medieval instruments with guitar, bass, and drums. Often 2 different accordians to do their songs. Heavier on the folkish side, pagan of course.Cool stuff.

And of course Norway's Lumsk. Stellar stuff, both albums. Easy to get too.
Otyg, now defunct, is Vintersorg's (Borknager) folk metal effort and they are
well worth having, must have's in my book but OOP and getting scarce.
OK, 'nuff for now.


Carl

CarlV
12-15-2006, 12:28 AM
Left Field..apologies

Esquivel - Space Age Bachelor Pad Music (a bit old school)
Sparklehorse - It's a Wonderful Life (Dog Door...duet with Tom Waits)

...better "learn" me on this other stuff...always up for new things.
Left field is correct. :lmao:


Carl

fujifrontier
12-15-2006, 01:52 AM
i could create a mix for someone if they wanted it

CarlV
12-15-2006, 10:50 AM
Alkonost has just made a My Space page a few days ago here (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=137695190&MyToken=468932fe-d823-4d63-8ea5-63d89096b8ef). :)


Carl

wajobu
12-16-2006, 07:20 AM
I'm ready to have you guys "learn me" about this stuff...

CarlV
12-16-2006, 11:59 AM
I'm ready to have you guys "learn me" about this stuff...
Are you on dial up, unable to click on links provided, or do a search with the band names listed? :headscrat

Spamming the thread for fun? :headscrat

just curious.



Carl

pmsummer
12-16-2006, 12:35 PM
Are you on dial up, unable to click on links provided, or do a search with the band names listed? :headscrat

Spamming the thread for fun? :headscrat

just curious.

Carl


All Audio - No Attitude.

CarlV
12-16-2006, 12:46 PM
All Audio - No Attitude.
Have you actually read this thread and seen all the help I have provided?
Do you have a problem with me asking direct straightforward questions?



Carl

pmsummer
12-16-2006, 03:04 PM
Have you actually read this thread and seen all the help I have provided?
Do you have a problem with me asking direct straightforward questions?

Carl

Carl,

I've been following the thread from its start.

Yeah, I have a problem with dissing folks, regardless of who's doing the dissing. It's not constructive.

There's asking straightforward questions and then there's asking questions loaded with attitude. If you're tired of "helping" people, just say "there are lots of good recommendations earlier, check 'em out".

Forums on the "internets" are loaded full of attitude. AK usually goes light on it. I like that part about AK.

Now back to the music.

PM

Dynacophil
12-16-2006, 03:12 PM
If I dig Nightwish, Therion, Lacuna Coil, Leaves Eyes, Sirenia, Epica, and The Crest, who else should I check out? :scratch2:

checkout:

Umbra et imago (http://www.umbraetimago.de/)
Goethes Erben (http://www.goetheserben.de/english.php)
Dead Can Dance
Oomph! (http://www.oomph.de/)
Subway to Sally (http://www.subwaytosally.de/)
Eric Fish (http://www.ericfish.de/)


have fun! :banana:

CarlV
12-16-2006, 03:23 PM
Carl,

I've been following the thread from its start.

Yeah, I have a problem with dissing folks, regardless of who's doing the dissing. It's not constructive.

There's asking straightforward questions and then there's asking questions loaded with attitude. If you're tired of "helping" people, just say "there are lots of good recommendations earlier, check 'em out".



PM
I have dissed nobody, period.
No "attitude" as you like to call it on my part whatsoever.
Given the content of the thread those questions need to be answered
for a thoughtful, helpful response.


Carl

pmsummer
12-16-2006, 03:27 PM
Spamming the thread for fun?

Obviously my mistake. Read like a diss to me.

Sorry to have offended you.

CarlV
12-16-2006, 03:30 PM
Obviously my mistake. Read like a diss to me.

Sorry to have offended you.
Again, given the content of the post, A valid, direct, honest, straightforward question.



Carl

Mystic
12-16-2006, 08:18 PM
Since this thread really whet my appetite to hear the Russian goth/pagan folk metal, I was able to borrow copies of Arkona "Vo Slavy Velikim" and Alkonost' "Put' Neproidenniy" from the local college radio station. Holy &$^$%! The Arkona is easily the more "traditional" sounding of the two - the female vocals actually sounding very similar to Soviet-era folk song collections I have. The Alkonost' album is off the map, man, with that hugely dark (musicians call it "brown") overdriven amp tone & the sensational vocals - especially the girl. Good call Carl, and I'm finding that I might prefer these albums to the two Korpiclaani albums I have. I'm going back to campus next week to pick up the other Arkona CD (Vozhredenie) and Alkonost' (Mezhmirnie) in the college station collection.

Thanks for the tip, and thanks to the guy who started this thread.

While I'm here I have another couple of suggestions for ideas in the same vein we've been working here:

Gothica "Night Thoughts" (2000)

The station's goth show DJ thought I'd like this too, based on our
conversation. I think they are Italian. Sure the band's name isn't
the most subtle -- or clever -- but this is what I'd call "power
atmospheric" goth, very dark & chilling, and the female vocals are
superb and have incredible presence within the recording's soundstage,
or at least that's the case through my audio system. Sounds like she is
in the room, all around you. Gothica have a sound that is similar to
tghe band Ataraxia, a band I recommended earlier in this thread.

Devil Doll "Dies Irae", "Girl Who Was Death" and "Sacrilege of Fatal Arms"

These works are epic - "Sacrilege..." is so epic that the entirety of
the 80-minute album consists of ONE song. "Girl...Death" and "Sacrilege.."
do not feature female soloists (there are female voices in the chorus
arrangements of "Sacrilege..."), but on the "Dies Irae" album there's not
only a female soloist, but that female soloist is noted opera soprano
Norena Radovan. These are some of the greatest progressive symphonic
gothic works you'll find.

CarlV
12-16-2006, 09:04 PM
:tresbon:
I am tickled you found some music you enjoy out of this thread. I am jealous you have your station that does European gothic. Borrowing albums as well.:drool: If I was into punk I would be in hog heaven here but I'm not. :no:
I have the Arkona DVD and it is a real kick to watch scrawny little Masha
put on a show as well do most of the growls herself.
I have posted about The Aerium before, a young Russian group. They are not too fancy yet but their singer is a wonderful Soprano. I think they can make it. They are on that Greek label that died so while their albums are easy to get, they could dry up. They have their whole first album in mp3 for free download and some other stuff too. Symphonic, not folk in flavor here (http://www.theaeriumband.com/engsite.html)
I will look into Gothica, I have run across their album before but it didn't jump out at me. Devil Doll - I have two albums on mp3 on my music computer from a South American torrent site but yet to listen. Easily remedied there. Thanks! :)
Korpiklaani is more like Finntroll, maybe it is what the Finnish approach is.
A lot more of a rocking rythum for sure.
I think you would dig Otyg and Lumsk a whole lot.


Carl

CarlV
12-16-2006, 09:05 PM
BTW, that radio station have a web feed? :)


Carl

3-LockBox
12-18-2006, 01:04 AM
Try Pure Reason Revolution: The Dark Third when you want a break from the goth stuff...it reminds me of Pink Floyd meets Polysonic Spree meets Porcupine Tree...spacey, psychadelic prog rock.

Mystic
12-18-2006, 04:42 AM
re: "I think you would dig Otyg and Lumsk a whole lot." - Carl

This weekend I was able to get hold of a copy of Otyg's "Alvefard"
album and two albums by Lumsk: "Asmund Frægdegjevar" and "Troll".
I liked Otyg, but will have to listen to it some more to get farther into it, trying to get used to the singer's unusual voice. Now, Lumsk: You were dead on target when you said I would dig it. Holy &^$% are these albums good. The sound is hypnotic, and the "Troll" works even include some brass instrumentation. Both Lumsk albums are outstanding. :yes: Many thanks for that suggestion, Carl.

re: "BTW, that radio station have a web feed?" - Carl

It sure does: KSPC in Claremont, webcast at http://www.kspc.org/. The goth show is on Thursdays from 10:00pm - Midnight, Pacific Time. The dj has a bias for playing dark music from the 1988-1995 period, but she'll go to the heavier stuff if you call or PM her w/ a request, and if she has it, she'll play it.

re: "Try Pure Reason Revolution: The Dark Third when you want a break from the goth stuff...it reminds me of Pink Floyd meets Polysonic Spree meets Porcupine Tree...spacey, psychadelic prog rock." - 3-LockBox

I don't know Pure Reason Revolution, but I sure do know Porcupine Tree & have nearly all of PT's EPs and LPs, also several Steve Wilson side projects, e.g., IEM. I like Space Needle quite well, too. It's very tempting to elaborate on this topic, but I do not wish be the one who gets us headed down the "psychedelic music" path -- that's all Audio Karma's Music Forum needs, to be swarmed by the internet's "psych mafia" music heads! But I will add that I do love listening to my original UK-issue Mono copy of "Piper at the Gates of Dawn". :music:

Back to goth: I'd also like to recommend an album by Ambeon, "Fate of a Dreamer". This is a very sweet recording and features Astrid van ser Veen singing and Arjen Lucassen of Ayreon. (Ambeon is an Ayreon side project)

Also just started listening to Autumn Tears' "Love Poems for Dying Children" Acts I and II. There is also an Act III, am still looking for that one. The atmosphere these discs create is lush, dark and stunning. Give it a shot.

CarlV
12-18-2006, 03:25 PM
but I do not wish be the one who gets us headed down the "psychedelic music" path
Can always start an on topic thread - cheap and easy! ;)

Thank You for the webcast link. :smoke:
Back to goth: I'd also like to recommend an album by Ambeon, "Fate of a Dreamer". This is a very sweet recording and features Astrid van ser Veen singing and Arjen Lucassen of Ayreon. (Ambeon is an Ayreon side project)
In stock. :)
Also just started listening to Autumn Tears' "Love Poems for Dying Children" Acts I and II. There is also an Act III, am still looking for that one. The atmosphere these discs create is lush, dark and stunning. Give it a shot.
In stock as well, I was browsing the metal bins at Amoeba Berkeley :) and saw the Act1 LP and I decided to give it a shot. I enjoyed it and bought the other two as well off their site. Seriously dark, yet beautiful in it's own way. Too bad they are OOP, maybe only temporary.
I have another newer? Autumn Tears still sealed somewhere. (don't ask) It is here though.
If we are doing what little is of U.S.A. origin, have you heard of Aesma Daeva from Minneapolis?


Carl

Mystic
12-18-2006, 08:58 PM
The other, later Autumn Tears LP you have might be "Eclipse", which is a full-length album. There is also an EP which they recorded between Acts II and III. I have the Eclipse LP and the EP, called "Absolution". I them both quite well, and actually the Eclipse LP might be my very favorite Autumn Tears effort.

Ah, Aesma Daeva - the "Shining One" (a Persian deity as I recall). Pretty much the top of the heap where American goth metal is concerned. I have the second LP "Eros of Frigid Beauty", which features as its main vocalist one Melissa Ferlaak, currently of Visions of Atlantis. (I have never herd anything good by or about Vision of Atlantis!) Aesma Daeva's record label, "Root of All Evil", is owned or at least operated by the band or one of its members, and there's even an online record store -- http://www.rootofallevil.com/ -- that's somehow related to all this.

wajobu
12-18-2006, 09:16 PM
Are you on dial up, unable to click on links provided, or do a search with the band names listed? :headscrat

Spamming the thread for fun? :headscrat

just curious.

Carl

Hi Carl,

Nope, not spamming at all, just trying to learn about some new music, like the title of the thread states. So, I also made some suggestions, as did others. I clicked on SOME of the links, but frankly surfing a bunch of links isn't quite as satisfying as being introduced to some new music through discussion and explanation (what the music is about, it's roots, relationships, etc.). I thought that this was an open discussion about a possible wide variety of music--perhaps not. Regardless, no offense taken.

I did receive a very nice PM with some great info and an offer for some music to try. If we have a narrow topic music thread here, I recommend adding a suffix to clarify the thread...it started somewhat mysteriously (at least to me).

Again, no offense taken.

...tick, tick, toc...time passes...EDIT:

BTW, only just now, in re-reading the thread...carefully..., I noticed in the first post, "...The official Gothic/Opera Metal thread...", but then posts about "Folk Metal". Clearly, in this area, I have MUCH to learn. Just trying to learn from those in-the-know. :yes:

Drybasement
12-18-2006, 09:55 PM
Hi Carl,

Nope, not spamming at all, just trying to learn about some new music, like the title of the thread states. So, I also made some suggestions, as did others. I clicked on SOME of the links, but frankly surfing a bunch of links isn't quite as satisfying as being introduced to some new music through discussion and explanation (what the music is about, it's roots, relationships, etc.). I thought that this was an open discussion about a possible wide variety of music--perhaps not. Regardless, no offense taken.

I did receive a very nice PM with some great info and an offer for some music to try. If we have a narrow topic music thread here, I recommend adding a suffix to clarify the thread...it started somewhat mysteriously (at least to me).

Again, no offense taken.

...tick, tick, toc...time passes...EDIT:

BTW, only just now, in re-reading the thread...carefully..., I noticed in the first post, "...The official Gothic/Opera Metal thread...", but then posts about "Folk Metal". Clearly, in this area, I have MUCH to learn. Just trying to learn from those in-the-know. :yes:

Package mailed today Walker. Enjoy! I hope :D.

Cheers

CarlV
12-18-2006, 10:29 PM
Hi Carl,

Nope, not spamming at all, just trying to learn about some new music, like the title of the thread states. So, I also made some suggestions, as did others. I clicked on SOME of the links, but frankly surfing a bunch of links isn't quite as satisfying as being introduced to some new music through discussion and explanation (what the music is about, it's roots, relationships, etc.). I thought that this was an open discussion about a possible wide variety of music--perhaps not. Regardless, no offense taken.

I did receive a very nice PM with some great info and an offer for some music to try. If we have a narrow topic music thread here, I recommend adding a suffix to clarify the thread...it started somewhat mysteriously (at least to me).

Again, no offense taken.

...tick, tick, toc...time passes...EDIT:

BTW, only just now, in re-reading the thread...carefully..., I noticed in the first post, "...The official Gothic/Opera Metal thread...", but then posts about "Folk Metal". Clearly, in this area, I have MUCH to learn. Just trying to learn from those in-the-know. :yes:
OK, I was trying to get to the bottom of how I could help you is all.
There is a Folk side to European Gothic, a Viking folk, Celtic, recently discovering this Slavic end. There is symphonic/classical and some with just a general medieval tone to it as well.
I see Darren is on a mission for you now. If there is anything at all I can do regarding anything let me know. :)


Carl

Drybasement
12-18-2006, 10:54 PM
Walker,

What I sent you was the top two inches of an iceberg. There's so much more below that. Carl is the real expert with this type of music. He has introduced me to so much. Let me, and most importantly, Carl, know. He can hook you up buddy.

Cheers

Dusty Chalk
12-19-2006, 06:18 PM
I once described Autumn Tears as Cradle of Filth without all the screaming and growling vocals and loud distorted guitars, if that makes any sense.

I think the third album in the trilogy has two different covers -- I accidentally got them both, at one point.

wajobu
12-19-2006, 06:23 PM
Walker,

What I sent you was the top two inches of an iceberg. There's so much more below that. Carl is the real expert with this type of music. He has introduced me to so much. Let me, and most importantly, Carl, know. He can hook you up buddy.

Cheers

Merci beaucoup!

CarlV
12-20-2006, 12:14 PM
Wednesday, December 20, 2006

Within Temptation signs US Record Deal!

Great news! We have signed a deal with the US office of Roadrunner Records. This means that our new album, that will be released next year, will also be released in the States. We will also be touring there, which is even better news!


:)


Carl

Dusty Chalk
12-20-2006, 02:28 PM
Excellent news, no more paying $24 for their CD's. And no more recommending it to someone, only to have said someone come back with, "I don't know, it's kind of expensive".

Mystic
12-20-2006, 10:10 PM
and it's good news that some of us might get to to see them perform live.

And, back to Filmboydoug's request for recommended listening, another nordic folk metalish offering that I find interesting and quite enjoy is the band Asmegin, and the album is titled "Hin Vordende Sod & So." The mix of acoustic & electrical instruments combined with mixed male & female vocals on this album is rich and striking, and a bit unique for the genre. What I mean is that instead of the ususal "boy sings then girl sings", this thing has female & male vocals that occur together, and it even mixes clean tenor-range male vocals with "blackened" male vocals and female vocals. This one was a real surprise for me. It's the only full-length album Asmegin released, as far as I know. There was also an EP release which I have never heard.

CarlV
12-20-2006, 10:20 PM
Asmegin, and the album is titled "Hin Vordende Sod & So."
I just picked that up last month, me likey.

Generally, Beauty and the Beast especially with violin I am going to like it. :yes:
and it's good news that some of us might get to to see them perform live.
I will be seeing them if the tour here and that is all there is to it. :smoke:

Now having seen Nightwish, Epica, Therion, and Leave's Eyes I can say these groups are not to be missed live.


Carl

HIFIVINYL15
12-20-2006, 10:59 PM
Check out blind gaurdian, excellent prog. metal group, leaves eyes opened for them a week or too ago at a concert at jax nightclub. So yeah definitely check Blind Gaurdian out they are an amazing group of musicians.

CarlV
12-20-2006, 11:03 PM
I did also at the Fillmore, but they are power prog not goth metal so I did not list. That is another thread. :)


Carl

CarlV
12-25-2006, 09:00 PM
The other, later Autumn Tears LP you have might be "Eclipse", which is a full-length album. There is also an EP which they recorded between Acts II and III. I have the Eclipse LP and the EP, called "Absolution". I them both quite well, and actually the Eclipse LP might be my very favorite Autumn Tears effort.


I found it! :banana:
It was in a box of sealed jazz cd's, Eclipse it is.



Carl

Mystic
12-26-2006, 11:25 AM
I found it! :banana:
It was in a box of sealed jazz cd's, Eclipse it is.

Carl

Let me know what you think of it after you've unsealed and had a chance to listen to it.

Similar to Autumn Tears are a Swedish group called Arcana, who have been producing gorgeous, melancholic mediaeval soundscapes since the early 1990s. Noteworthy titles include "Cantar de Procella", "Last Embrace" and "Le Serpent Rouge".

Edwin

Filmboydoug
08-15-2007, 08:51 PM
Anybody have anything new to add?

Carl, what are your thoughts on The Aerium's new singer? I think she is a good singer but a step or two down from Veronika.

Filmboydoug
08-15-2007, 09:32 PM
More prog than metal but 2 new to me bands I can recommend are Brave and Mostly Autumn.

CarlV
08-15-2007, 11:35 PM
Anybody have anything new to add?

Carl, what are your thoughts on The Aerium's new singer? I think she is a good singer but a step or two down from Veronika.

I haven't visited their page recently, I guess I need to. Their label went out of biz and I haven't seen a new album on a new label yet. Cruachan was on that label too but finally got a contract and new album out but that was months ago now..

As far as the rest, this thread is a trainwreck, too old and run off course too many times to want to dig through. New thread time.:yes:

Many of the named bands have new releases out now/since. My Space is very popular and a great way to search out new stuff by looking at their friends list.


Carl

Dusty Chalk
08-16-2007, 12:56 AM
...and then there's Pandora...

Drybasement
08-16-2007, 09:08 AM
More prog than metal but 2 new to me bands I can recommend are Brave and Mostly Autumn.

I've been listening to Mostly Autumn for years and have all their studio albums plus a few live albums. Great band.

Brave.....I have an album they released several years ago (2003) titled Searching For The Sun and an EP they released a year or two later. Good stuff. Do they have something new available? Also, Brave started out as Arise From Thorns. Basically, they are same people but with a different name. The Arise From Thorns album that I have is titled Before An Audience Of Stars and is just as good but may be a little hard to find now.

Cheers

Zeromancer
08-16-2007, 11:46 AM
If I dig Nightwish, Therion, Lacuna Coil, Leaves Eyes, Sirenia, Epica, and The Crest, who else should I check out? :scratch2:
Evergrey - Find and buy every album!!!!
Kamelot!!!!

Zeromancer
08-16-2007, 11:49 AM
Artrosis
Polish metal band with female singer
http://metalmetamorphosis.wetpaint.com/page/Artrosis+-+Poland
http://www.myspace.com/artrosis

Zeromancer
08-16-2007, 11:53 AM
The Sins of Thy Beloved
http://www.tsotb.tk/
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pageartist.cfm?bandID=250427

Great female operatic voice but mixed with cookie cutter growling male vocals. Great music.
Very similar to Theatre of Tragedy.