View Full Version : Almarro A50125A Integrated amp comments - Part I


spkrman57
09-21-2006, 12:01 PM
I'm not a reviewer and I'm posting for the curious who are seeking info about Almorro products.

I already own the 205A EL84 SEP amp and found the build quality and circuit design to be very good.

So I was curious when Brian mentioned to me about Almorro's biggest tube amp. I have had the amp sitting for some time now without powering it up due to the hot summer and not wanting my AC to battle "8" 6550 power pentodes. The filaments alone for 8 tubes is 80 watts consumption. Now that the weather has cooled down I now have the living room "portable heater" up and running.

I will start with the size and weight. At 22" long and 66 lbs, this is not for a weak or flimsy audio rack(I use a coffee table myself). The biggest amp I had before was my MC-240 and this is slightly larger and heavier.

The instruction manual needs to be reworked, it is difficult for the translation from Japanese to English. I have received much needed technical info from Brian who worked hard with Yoshi(Almorro) to get it to me! :thmbsp:

I have ideas on how to remedy that and will try and get with Nathan(Almorro USA rep) to get that accomplished.

Recommended bias is 150mv(considered direct comparison to 150ma). I have set mine at 140 and check often as these tubes have less than 20hrs prior to my receipt of the amp and drift slightly. Manual warns of biasing to 165 as damage to the amp/tubes may occur.

I have cut little white labels into 1/4" squares with "A", "B" and "+" on them to stick on the chassis at the bias adjustment screws and test points. This makes it easy to adjust the right tubes.

When the unit is 1st turned on, the mute(input selector position) must be used. The power supply feeds only the filaments for 2 mins(approx) and then bias and B+ voltages are turned on by a relay(sound like it at least). I like the "soft-start" approach, especially with a amp like this with a huge power supply.

2 electrolytics visable on top of the chassis are just soldered in and no physical mounting is evident here. I would think a physical mount for these caps would be advisable. The caps are rated at 1500ufd/450v. There is a top mounted choke(nice size) and the power and output tranny's are covered with metal cage. They look to be nice sized for the power rating(125wpc).

I only have 8 hrs on this so far, and used 2 Pi towers(95db/watt - 10" 2-way) yesterday, today JBL consumer 10" 3-way(JBL model 4800) - 91db/watt.

I believe in breaking in speakers and amps slowly when new or new components are used.

Since the tubes and amp have less than 40 hrs on them the next part is really just initial impressions.

The amp has a lot of bottom end grunt, this will settle down after 100hrs and will develop into a smoother sound character. I won't use any heavy duty speakers and push the amp until 100hrs of break-in have occurred.

There is also a fan with a switch on it, I run the fan anytime the amp is on as it brings in cool air and runs it through the inside of the chassis and vents out the top of the chassis in a spattering of small (1/8") square holes. A good idea to me as components other than tubes create heat(resistors), this will lead to longer life for the components.

The input level control(Volume) is decent quality, due to high power and sensitivity of this amp will keep you close to the bottom of the controls tracking and for the lower levels will be slightly off between chnl tracking. I do not consider this a issue as if you bought this amp, you are not planning to listen to whisper levels. Same with the fan, barely heard but some will complain anyways.

I will post further observations once the 100hr mark is hit and I can use some JBL pro components that are made for handling the power that this amp is capable of.

Last but not least, special thanks to Brian who always makes things work out right! :thmbsp:

Regards, Ron (audio maniac at large!) :smoke:

doucanoe
09-21-2006, 08:36 PM
Sounds like its going to prove to be a great tube amp Ron. Lots of power for just about any speaker you can throw at it. Sure would like to see a pic when you get a chance.

RC

grumpy
09-21-2006, 08:45 PM
Would love to hear the big boy Almarro amp. Thanks for the write up.

spkrman57
09-21-2006, 10:36 PM
I'll be more excited about writing what the amp sounds like after 100 hour burn-in!

Grumpy, come down to Ohio and visit and see the amp in person. Good excuse to get Paul Bunyon(Oops, I meant Pete!!!LOL) and get him down here also!

Ron, The amp shows a lot of promise. After proper burn it will be time for my pro sound JBL gear!!!!

Ron

one1speed
09-22-2006, 01:19 PM
I need to make time to run over to Ron's and see this mighty thing. Hopefully after the move, it's been far too long.

BrianB
09-22-2006, 10:57 PM
Hi Ron,

Thanks so much for your "preview" of the Almarro A51025A integrated tube amp! Almarro is mostly known for their low-power, single-ended tube designs, and so your teaser for this high-power, push-pull tube amp is greatly appreciated. I cannot wait to read your upcoming "listening" review...

Cheers,
Brian

spkrman57
09-28-2006, 07:28 AM
Approx 50hrs broken in at this point.

Finally freed the JBL 4800 consumer speakers to the bedroom storage upstairs. The Almorro is more of a amp than these speakers will ever need. They are happy to have survived the breakin period!

I now have a JBL 15" in a reflex cabinet with my GP 399 driver on 500hz Edgarhorn crossed over at 800hz(2nd order LF/3rd order HF).

While the new speakers are 96db vs the 91db of the 4800's, I am more able to push the volume up a bit more due to less compression of the pro sound drivers.

In my house with my speakers, other than subwoofer amp duty, I will never be able to see anywhere near the 125wpc rating.

The amp has nice body in the sound signature, I have decided with my horns running now that another 50hrs of burn-in will make even more difference.

I have played a lot of live rock and roll cds lately, love that concert sound!!!

Ron

spkrman57
09-28-2006, 11:12 AM
Compared to my previous PP tube amp reference(MC-240), I have to say the sound stage is very warm without drawing attention to itself.

Listening to classical music now and the stringed instraments sound very nice and strong. Something that most very powerful tube amps don't do well.

Ron

BrianB
10-07-2006, 11:23 PM
Hi Ron,

Well, I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head in that last post regarding the unique combination of attributes offered by Almarro's biggest tube amp. In fact, I am going to suggest that Almarro use the following phrase in their promotion of this amp: Powerfully subtle...

Cheers,
Brian
Venus Hi-Fi

spkrman57
10-08-2006, 11:25 AM
This amp is a beast! :yes:

I don't have any inefficient speakers around to push the envelope with on this amp, but everything I have used it with sounds good.

I am going to try and install some JBL 2235H's in cabinets for sub duty and use the beast to power them!

Hope to have them ready in a few weeks.

The bass drive on this amp is awesome. There is no "tubbiness" normally associated with tube amps with weak power supplies or poor design! :thmbsp:

Ron