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Antonio Machado
07-29-2002, 04:58 PM
Hello my friends of Audiokarma:

During the last few years I've been working/saving/investing on building a good audio system, I've being doing it step by step, component by component, patiently, I think now I have a decent one (please check it out below). But I was always thinking on a high-end FM tuner as an important part of my system, so I began to read/ask/learn about that field, after which I got a beautiful FM tuner, no less than the Magnum Dynalab MD-100-R.

That Company -to my knowledge- is one of the best manufacturer of high-end FM tuners, just like Fanfare, McIntosh, Arcam, etc., all of them great products. Magnum Dynalab offers several models, since the entrance level model MD-90 to their top of the line MD-108, the mine one is one of their intermediate level models. I got it with two "extras": the remote control (that's the meaning of the "R" at the end of it's name) and a silver faceplate to match with the rest of my components, all of them the same color. M.S.R.P. for this model, including both extras is aprox. $ 2.100.00; I got it for around $ 1.600.00 at Audiogon.

Right out of the box (about three months ago) the sound was very good, and since then I've being playing it several hours daily, and it is getting better and better, since -as you know- with any good component, given capacitors, internal wiring and output devices the break-in period is a natural phenomena. Now I think it already stabilized and it is giving me it's best, a great, marvelous sound in every sense: clear, accurate, and very musical sound.

Well, guys, I have a decent collection of aprox. one thousand CDs of classical music and Opera, and now my tuner is giving me lots of music more, many masterworks I didn't know before now I am listening them through this great tuner, it is just like an open window from which you see a huge landscape. So now, listening to -let us say- "WQXR-the classical station of The New York Times"
I enjoy Monteverdi's madrigals, Albinoni's Adagios (he has many adagios), Beethoven Symphonies, Bach's cantatas, Verdi's choruses, Mozart's string quartets, heavens! that's an endless pleausure! and the list continues: Bellini, Donizetti, Dvorak, Brahms, Samuel Barber...

Before I used to listen a few moments the radio stations of New York in my old Marantz receiver/FM tuner, but I always felt it's sound very poor and fatiguing. Now, the sound of this MD-100-R is from far lots better, I couldn't imagine a high-end FM tuner could sound so beautifully, so musical and lively. Now, to be fair, compared with my old Marantz my new toy sound very much better, but compared with the CDs played in my Metronome Signature combo (transport/DAC), the CDs sound much better than the tuner.

On the other hand, just like everything in life, it has also pros/contras: the best "pro" is it's great sound, magnificent analog sound; but it has also "contras":; the basic unit doesn't have pre-sets, so if you want that feauture you have order it as an extra (extra money), and even in the handset you can program just five stations, sometimes I'd like to be able to program more stations; the second "contra" is that it doesn't have "scan" function, neither in the unit nor in the handset, so whenever you want to scan stations you have do it by yourself and -worst of all- the tune up/down bottoms in your handset is highly sensitive and extremely fast, so it is not really an easy task. Now, compared with the great sound you get from this beauty, those are just small "contras".

So my friends of Audiokarma, based on this excellent experience, I'd suggest you to think about a good quality FM tuner as an important part of your system, it is an open window to a huge variety of music of any kind and it gives to you lots of fun. Laura Dearborn (from "Good sound") writtes: "A tuner is like a lending library, you can room at will through all the stations, stopping to listen whenever you want, then either passing it by or going out to purchase a copy of your own. Some of the music you could never hear anywhere else. It is worthwile to get a good tuner because otherwise you probably won't listen to it too much". Hope this good experience motivates you to give a try to a good quality FM tuner...

My system is:
Metronome Signature T-20 transport
Metronome Signature C-20 Digital Analog Converter
McCormack RLD-1 preamplifier
McCormack DNA-225 power amplifier
Magnum Dynalab MD-100-R FM tuner
Paradigm Reference Studio 100 v.2 speakers
Paradigm PS-1200 powered subwoofer
Shunyatha Hydra Power Line Conditioner (from Power Snakes)
Transparent musicwave ultra XL bi-wire speaker cables
Nordost SPM Reference interconnect cables
King Cobra v.1 power cord
Billybags # 5007 staggered shelf component with truss.


Hope thig good experience motivates you to give a try to a good quality FM tuner. Best regards, Antonio Machado.

bully
07-30-2002, 08:07 AM
Hiya, Antonio,
I agree about tuners! I have enjoyed the free air of FM for over 30 years, much longer than that if you include my childhood years and all the 'driving around' listening to the radio we did out here on the Great Plains in small towns.
The Magnum Dynalab's are certainly first-rate tuners. Congratulations!
I have a couple 25 year old Onkyo T-9 tuners I absolutely adore. They're extremely capable for DXing, but it is their superb quality of sound that makes them so exceptional.
A good antenna is essential. I would say to avoid like the plague 'amplified' types. If you are in the city, you will also be aware of multipath issues. A good antenna will definitely help overcome those problems.
With your system, providing the MD the best possible signal to chew on would provide you with some beautiful listening.

pete

Antonio Machado
07-30-2002, 06:12 PM
You have enjoyed it for a long time, so you know the field of FM tuners, a very interesting one indeed. As you say, the Magnum Dynalab is one of the best manufacturers of high-end FM tuners, their entrance-level (MD90) goes for around $ 900.00, and their flagship the MD-108 costs no less than $ 5.000.00. They have also a receiver which includes a high-end FM tuner, all of them analog, which is from far better sound than the digital ones -at least in my humble opinion.

Now, Pete, regarding to antennas I have the Terk FM antenna, I think it is pretty good, but in the future I'll look for something better, maybe one with more elements, directional, etc.; could you explain me more what is "amplified" antennas? I am not aware of that...

On the other hand, Pete, I think it is very interesting what you say about the system around the FM tuner: with a good system, a good amplifier, good pair of speakers, you get the best from these beauties, otherwise I am afraid they can't give their best. I like my system, and I am constantly upgrading it, as you know this is and endless hobby.

Finnally, Pete: I call Magnum Dynalab the other day asking how could I improve my sound even more, and they told me they are working on an "upgrade kit" for the MD-100-R, which will consists on upgrading the "sound section" to the level of the MD-102, that would be great, I think inmediately they release all the information I'll send my unit to be upgraded.

Thanks for replying, Pete, please explain me more about the "amplified antennas", looking forward your answer, Antonio Machado.

Originally posted by bully
Hiya, Antonio,
I agree about tuners! I have enjoyed the free air of FM for over 30 years, much longer than that if you include my childhood years and all the 'driving around' listening to the radio we did out here on the Great Plains in small towns.
The Magnum Dynalab's are certainly first-rate tuners. Congratulations!
I have a couple 25 year old Onkyo T-9 tuners I absolutely adore. They're extremely capable for DXing, but it is their superb quality of sound that makes them so exceptional.
A good antenna is essential. I would say to avoid like the plague 'amplified' types. If you are in the city, you will also be aware of multipath issues. A good antenna will definitely help overcome those problems.
With your system, providing the MD the best possible signal to chew on would provide you with some beautiful listening.

pete

bully
07-30-2002, 07:30 PM
Many of the indoor antennae, including most Terk models, have a signal gain amplifier. Yeah, they can amplify the signal, but they also (and some think even more so) amplify extraneous noise that we do not want.
If you live in the city, the best choices are probably not available. Those would be outdoor, mounted on as tall a mast as possible, and rotatable.
Effective antennae tend not to be pretty, they are typically large, and unwieldy. Some Yagi-types can be smaller, and fit in the attic.

pete

Antonio Machado
07-31-2002, 06:19 AM
Hello there:

Thanks for answering my question about "amplified antennas", I got it. I realize now that the TERK FM PRO antenna I have is designed for indoors use. Now, Pete: I live at the Bronx, New York, in a six-level building, but I am able to install any antenna on the roof of the building, whis is great, that's where I have now the TERK. I am thinking now on a better antenna, they say "the more elements the better" is that true? any company/brand/model you would suggest me to check before buying? what about the rotator? is that expensive extra-cost? you mention that the effective anennae tend not to be pretty, they are typically large. That's not a problem for me, since I'll install on the top of the roof of the building, where there are many other antennaes. Thanks in advance for your answer, best regards, Antonio Machado. By the way: I am in New York, where are you? cheers, A.M.


Originally posted by bully
Many of the indoor antennae, including most Terk models, have a signal gain amplifier. Yeah, they can amplify the signal, but they also (and some think even more so) amplify extraneous noise that we do not want.
If you live in the city, the best choices are probably not available. Those would be outdoor, mounted on as tall a mast as possible, and rotatable.
Effective antennae tend not to be pretty, they are typically large, and unwieldy. Some Yagi-types can be smaller, and fit in the attic.

pete

bully
07-31-2002, 06:52 AM
NYC: for FM you're both blessed & cursed! :D
Blessed with many excellent stations, cursed with many tall buildings!
Your situation is great, from what I've read, many people in NYC are not permitted to place outside antennae.
Now, don't hold your nose, but Radio Shack sells very fine antenna, also the rotors, and the necessary accessories for securing the mast, etc. Also, many hardware stores, especially Ace, Menards, and I'm not sure about Home Depot, but they probably sell antenna, too.
If you prefer to work with someone who specializes in FM reception, and is also an audiophile, contact Ed Hanlon of Antenna Performance Specialties,
http://antennaperformance.com
or email Ed at info@antennaperformance.com
APS is widely recognized among the tuner fanatics as making the best antenna available today. They are located in Connecticut, so you might even be able to visit their physical site.

best wishes, enjoy!!
pete

AudioLancelot
12-08-2002, 11:08 PM
The thread has caught my attention.

I bought a vintage Pioneer TX9800 about 5 months ago from a guy who also was going to buy a $5000 tuner. Ironically he lived in the city and only had one of those flat wire antennas in the basement. He only listened to a Toronto Jazz station.

Are one of those flagship tuners worth the money?

I also invested in an APS 13 antenna , consulting with Ed and Magnum Dynalab Canadian Division and a local satelite / antenna dealer. I was encouraged to also buy/try a Magnum Dynalab gadget that was to also improve the reception. The antenna was a slight improvement over my other TV/UHF/FM Channel Master antenna but the Dynalab gear did nothing in my case and I was fully refunded....no hassle.

I later learned that other factors are at play in my case...quite surprising scientific info from a DX discussion group.

There are limits that govern tuners on technical perfection... most FM stations broadcast up to maximum of 17000 hertz..most less...most stations only separate channels at less than 45 decibels..many less than 40 ....I have seen very expensive modern tuners that do not have frequency synthesis.

Yes to improve
1. buy the best antenna you can to improve the tuners sensitivity
2. Quality dynamic range expander to restore dynamic range compressed by stations
to suggest a few.

Could you give examples as to why your modern tuner is an improvement over quality vintage tuners.

Thanks Dennis

Thatch_Ear
12-08-2002, 11:36 PM
Yea, the guy on the bare mountain top was St. Peter who would have loved some sunglasses as would anyone back then. As far as the FM stations go I believe that they are basically between stations 5 and 7 on the TV. If you are in a large city the band tends to be full.
A good tuner will separate the channels, give you good stereo and do it with a minimal antennea.
So if you put something good on the roof you can get stations from farther away in better condition. If all you listen to is close by the actual quality of the antennae is less important to a quality tuner.

millerdog
12-09-2002, 01:48 AM
Wait, something's wrong here. I thought that TV was around 60 megs and FM started at around 88megs?
If i really wanted to build a dedicated antenna for a particular station, I'd build an FM yagi. I've built copper wire and wood yagis in the VHF range (155megs actually 1.5 kilos or 2 meters)
md