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theblackknight
11-04-2006, 09:46 PM
Do you use the loudness button on your receiver/ amp? :scratch2:

approse
11-04-2006, 09:59 PM
nope...... seldom to never.

Wigwam Jones
11-04-2006, 10:02 PM
I actually prefer equipment with a 'tone defeat' switch of some sort. Straight wire with gain, that's all I want.

JoeESP9
11-04-2006, 10:11 PM
My preamp doesn't have tone controls or a loudness button. :smoke:

Scorpion8
11-04-2006, 10:22 PM
I use headphones on a H/K-330c at work, and the "contour" switch adds some fullness missing with the on-ear headphones. Depending on the source, I may switch it in or out.

OvenMaster
11-04-2006, 10:33 PM
In the past when I had receivers with a Loudness button, I never used it.
Tom

jpdylon
11-04-2006, 11:19 PM
nah. never use it. seems like whenever I turn it on, the sound reminds me of the cold, harsh and boomy sounding chit they pass as stereo gear at places like circuit city and the like.

jaymanaa
11-05-2006, 07:48 AM
Tone controls?.............Tone Controls?...................We don't need no stinkin tone controls. :D

Toasted Almond
11-05-2006, 08:18 AM
No loudness, no tone controls. Ever.

pbda
11-05-2006, 08:20 AM
When doing non-critical listening at low volume levels: always on.

When paying attention, I switch it off, but almost never disable the tone controls. I LOVE fiddling with tone controls and find that each recording requires a different tweak to make it sound best to my ears.

rickon66
11-05-2006, 08:44 AM
:no: :nono: :thumbsdn: :eek: :nono: No!

Arkay
11-05-2006, 08:59 AM
For "critical listening" and on the main system, never. No tone controls at all.

But with the receiver in my small-ish and somewhat cluttered workbench area, with speakers atop shelves near the ceiling, I sometimes play with tone controls and loudness, if listening at low volumes. Sometimes it helps make a mediocre situation sound a bit better.

I know "Wire with gain" is always the goal, but in the real world with less-than-ideal listening environments and inputs, sometimes a little "fudging" helps correct weaknesses. With a better system in a better configuration and environment (like in the living room) I prefer to "defeat" tone controls.

I might change my mind if I start using the vintage Soundcraftsmen pre-with-EQ in a system, though. When I tested it, I could not detect any added noise at any normal listening levels. However, I have yet to try it with my most revealing speakers/system, so I might yet change my mind about it. Will experiment with it one day.

shacky
11-05-2006, 10:17 AM
Looks like this thresd has been dormant for a while. Just placed my vote. I use loudness unless I'm listening at high volumes (very seldom). I grew up listening to Sony 6050 and Wharfedale W40's. Loudness seemd to make the music more alive and I've gotten use to it.

Now use Sansui 890DB with AR 2AX and use loudness most of the time. Most would probably say you don't need loudness with the big sui's but I like it. I have have combinations of receivers/speakers that don't sound good with loudness on unless it's a recording that needs a lot of boost. But my Sansui has plenty of power and finess to make loudness sound great through the 2AX's.

ashnut
11-05-2006, 10:30 AM
It's well documented that the ear's sensitivity to certain frequencies is non-linear. Attenuation to those frequencies that my ears do not pick up during low level listening (~60dB and lower?) add to the sound. At lower levels, all the time. Otherwise, no.

It's there for a reason. I use it for the reason for which it's intended.

macaltec
11-05-2006, 03:12 PM
I'll let HomerJSimpson explain the title if he finds this thread. Never do it. Leave the tone controls alone as well. Funny though, I hate when the tone controls are scratchy or don't work correctly :scratch2: .

donoghue
11-05-2006, 03:23 PM
In the past when I had receivers with a Loudness button, I never used it.

My preamp doesn't have tone controls or a loudness button.

Ditto & ditto

birddog
11-05-2006, 04:11 PM
Shoulda been a "sometimes" or "depends on the ----" catagory. I use it, and the tone controls, but only when I feel that it enhances the sound, due to the system, enviorment, background noise, whatever the need may be. Low listening levels, I like the loudness button, but not on all my equipment. Different pieces have the "boost" set at different steps, and therefore sound different. Noisy crowded room, I like to set the treble control up a few notches sometimes. The point is, to me, leaving everything flat just isn't the perfect setting for all listening scenarios....

streckfu
11-05-2006, 04:16 PM
I voted yeas but use it only at lower volumes (background music to conversations, typicallly) as intended.

Donny
11-05-2006, 05:46 PM
Loudness on bass up a bit with either hpm100 or polk model11 and a subwoofer! I have had a few units that did not really need loadness and my tube unit donesn't seem to even need the tone controls. Most of my receivers/amps I use loudess fulltime.

Filmboydoug
11-05-2006, 07:04 PM
No loudness switch here, just a bass and treble set to defeat. I do have 3 sound processor ins/outs tho.

ozmoid
11-05-2006, 10:43 PM
I have a Yamaha amp, and the "loudness" control is a little different from the usual "button". Loudness on the CR and R series Yamahas is a variable contour pot, that removes mids and upper tones in a pre-determined EQ curve that varies with the control setting. I use it in two cases:

Low level listening - really smooths out what I hear at low volume levels, keeps the bass from fading away. I usually turn the volume UP until I get the bottom end where I can hear it clearly, then turn the loudness control UP, which pulls the mids and higher pitches down so my wife can sleep! :thmbsp:

Phil Spector recordings: I mainly have John Lennon albums he recorded, but it seems every track Phil worked on for him has a "dead" topend. The built-in EQ curve seems to be just the thing for it!

Otherwise, the Tone controls on my amp stay flat. :)

Eunomians
11-06-2006, 07:18 PM
I always use Loudness at low listening volumes.

All tone controls kept are flat. Always flat. All the time. In fact, if you were to walk into my house right now, you'd see my tone controls are flat.

shelby1420
11-07-2006, 11:10 AM
I do not have tone controls............

Aage
11-07-2006, 02:25 PM
So, I guess you "straight wire with gain" folks don't have equalisers either, then? Or is that another pole? :beatnik:

shelby1420
11-07-2006, 02:34 PM
So, I guess you "straight wire with gain" folks don't have equalisers either, then? Or is that another pole? :beatnik:

Actually I have a Sansui SE - 9 that I plan on using in the garage with my Marantz 2330........

pioneervato
12-14-2006, 11:00 AM
Depends on how loud my wife lets me crank it up. At lower listening levels I usually have it switched on.

bordeno
12-14-2006, 11:16 AM
Depends on the system.
My separates system doesn't have tone or loudness.

My integrated amp and receivers all have it and it gets used alot. I like to turn on the loudness AND turn down the bass a notch or two. Too much bass with tone flat and loudness on. In general the receivers don't get played as loud as the separates system. And as mentioned below, the variable loudness on my Yammy CR-1020 is extremely cool.

slow_jazz
12-14-2006, 11:16 AM
i use the loudness button at lower volume and always use the tone controls...

there is no such thing as a flat room so you need to compensate....

JJCharles
12-16-2006, 11:48 PM
Hi,

Loudness...you bet. And three amplifiers each with their own equalizer to accentuate the frequency range that I want to hear from each pair of speakers. The high-mounted (listening height) speakers facing me are upped in the 1kHz and 400Hz ranges to make vocals stand out. The other front facing speakers are floor mounted and have the upper mid and high frequencies upped. The rear wall mounted speakers are high up and lend themselves to bass ranges, so the upper ranges are reduced. Each set of speakers is concentrating on a particular range enabling them to work more efficiently. :yes:

dmax99
12-17-2006, 02:18 PM
I don't have loudness or tone controls in my main rig....

jedo1507r
12-17-2006, 02:22 PM
I can't keep my hands off them.

fropiler
12-17-2006, 02:26 PM
I do whatever is necessary to make it sound good to me. Loudness feature "on" almost always sounds better to me. I will not hesitate to grab a handful of tone controls or EQ sliders if I deem it necessary.