Well I jumped on the band-wagon and snuk out at lunch to pick up the new beatles love cd. After giving it a listen I have opinions. I never realized how many Beatles songs have violins/strings in them, not talking about guitars here.
Sometimes I really like the new mixes, sometimes I wanted to scream at the sacrilage- this doesn't work this is wrong.
The one thing that really stood out was the quality of the recording. When the first song starts with only there voices and my brain filling in the instrumentation, I was very blown away. Goerge doing " Something" is so well done I can see goerge standing there in front of me. Same with john when he does "a day in the life" and Ringo does "Octopus's garden"
I like the way they redid "Strawberry Fields.
On the whole I come away with a warm positive feeling about this, wanting to listen again. My only wish is for a second version: a raw rock and roll one with out all the string fillers, after all johns band was a rock and roll band!!

I'm surprised that nobody else has an opinion on this CD?
cheers Wolfgang

I only heard a brief mention of it on the radio last week. What's the jist of this release?

The music was commisioned, if you will, by Cirque du Soliel. Paul and Ringo agreed to the project and George Martin and his son did the production. According to George Martin the new mixes were possible due to the near perfect condition of all the master tapes.

cubdog

That sounds really interesting. I think I'll be hitting Futureshop tomorrow.

I look forward to listening. I have my doubts though. It would be like repainting the The Mona Lisa to make it look "better," and more up to date and saleable

I'm surprised that nobody else has an opinion on this CD?
cheers Wolfgang

Well, it had been less than 24 hours, and it is a holiday week. Chill out. My guess is others will respond.

JD

Haven't heard it yet. After the "Let It Be - Naked" fiasco, I'm not excited. Am still pissed at the half-hearted re-packaging Crapitol is doing on the Beatles/Capitol boxed sets.

Haven't heard it yet. After the "Let It Be - Naked" fiasco, I'm not excited. Am still pissed at the half-hearted re-packaging Crapitol is doing on the Beatles/Capitol boxed sets.

I have to defend "Let It Be - Naked," because, even though it was advertised as a raw version of the original (deleting Spector's overzealous studio enhancements), many of the tracks are actually different. In particular, McCartney's vocal tracks on I've Got a Feeling, Long and Winding Road, and Let it Be are great alternate versions well worth the price of the CD considering how many bootlegs I bought over the years with less interesting content.

At the risk of raising hackles here, you might want to look at the following thread at another hi-fi forum on this topic:
http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/music/rock/messages/64944.html

I tried to listen to a copy just now and boy does this suck. It is mostly
alternate takes. Most of these are incomplete so they just mixed other tracks
from other songs to make an abortion of a complete song. This is done with no fades ins, abrupt as well as not fitting. Some of this garbage is added as one of these modern type mixes for rap etc.Made my skin crawl as being a Beatle fan since I was a young lad. This is just another wet dream from some idiot recording engineers who haven't a clue.


Carl

I tried to listen to a copy just now and boy does this suck. It is mostly
alternate takes. Most of these are incomplete so they just mixed other tracks
from other songs to make an abortion of a complete song. This is done with no fades ins, abrupt as well as not fitting. Some of this garbage is added as one of these modern type mixes for rap etc.Made my skin crawl as being a Beatle fan since I was a young lad. This is just another wet dream from some idiot recording engineers who haven't a clue.


Carl


C'mon Carl. Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel. :D

JD

Actually every single bit of LOVE is Beatles music the way they preformed it. While it may have been mixed up and engineered all source material had to come from the original master tapes nothing was added.

This was a condition of the project being allowed to happen.

The way I think of this is as a bit of a history record. What could have been had someone decided to edit something a little different.

Is it a reissue NO is it new music kind of. Is it going to be in my collection most definitely

Actually every single bit of LOVE is Beatles music the way they preformed it. While it may have been mixed up and engineered all source material had to come from the original master tapes nothing was added.

This was a condition of the project being allowed to happen.

The way I think of this is as a bit of a history record. What could have been had someone decided to edit something a little different.

Is it a reissue NO is it new music kind of. Is it going to be in my collection most definitely
You can have the Love album.
I have a couple dozen discs worth of Yellow Dog Beatle issues that are the same thing, just not bastardised into phony sounding music. I will happily live with those. :)



Carl

You can have the Love album.
I have a couple dozen discs worth of Yellow Dog Beatle issues that are the same thing, just not bastardised into phony sounding music. I will happily live with those. :)



Carl

Well, Carl I had no intention of forcingyou to buy the thing I could careless. I was just adding what facts I knew from having heard an interview with George Martin I heard on the Radio the other morning.

I also have Beatles Albums just they way they were origionally issued. But while I normally dislike remixes and cover bands hell I even dislike most live performances of stuff I know from studio work. This has something that interests me. Having never heard any of the studio stuf that didn't make on to final releases I find this Album very interesting

Having never heard any of the studio stuf that didn't make on to final releases
Buy a new very large hard drive and join Trader's Den. I beleve membership is still open. There are many active torrents in audio as well as video as i just went and looked. Free too.



Carl

Well for me after listening to it for a few more times, I think this is good, Another chapter in there history if I may as Paul and Ringo both liked it, agreed to it and are promoting it. Soooo it is original Beatles,
Also the original goal here was not to make us purists happy, but to make a Beatles score for a circus act, I think that is why there is so much blending and overdubbing.
cheers Wolfgang

Another chapter in there history if I may as Paul and Ringo both liked it, agreed to it and are promoting it.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ :yes: :yes:



Carl

I havent paid it any attention as I thought it was just another "best of" type of thing aimed at the CD generation as a marketing scheme. I got this attitude after someone gave me that supposed big deal ("One"?) a few years back for Christmas and I was very disapointed. Just a shuffle of hits to me.

Now to me hearing alternate versions is a good thing so this thread makes me want to hear the new release. Maybe it wont be same ol, same ol. Sorry fans but even The Beatles can cause burnout after a while. Like most great bands I haven't gotten tired of The Beatles, just their $$Hits$$ on FM radio.

That "Anthology" project was pretty interesting. Also, I never got to hear the "naked" version of "Let It Be". Theres a new idea, a RAW version of a RAW recording. Go figure!! Sounds like a good idea though. Spector may have put his diarrhea on the final cut, but the concept originally was to be RAW. The Beatles as a real BAND once again. At least thats the vibe I get from the movie...

I think the main things I got out of "Love" and "Let It Be... Naked" is how piss-poor my U.S. Capitol Beatles cds sound. Isn't it about time they went back to the master tapes and rereleased them all with some sort of pomp and circumstance? I heard the Japanese cds fare a little better, but I can't see myself spending the money to find out.

This thread got me curious and I bought the CD. Much better sonically than any of the Beatles CDs I have. I have to agree with winters860, what piss poor business people. Why can't I enjoy all the Beatles catalog remastered on SACD?

The recent Toshiba LP issues I have are my best sounding. :music:



Carl

"Within You Without You" is the one really outstanding "improved" track on this disc. George's vocal is mixed with the instrumental backing from "Tomorrow Never Knows." The results are outstanding, and, IMHO, better than the original version on Sgt. Pepper. Also cool are the new mixes of " What You're Doing/ Drive My Car/ The Word" and "Inner Light/ Here Comes the Sun."

Well I listened to it again last night and I'm liking the way they did strawberry feilds but I'm definitly not liking the Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds. I think that Somthing In The Way She Moves is my Favorite. I never realized just how good Georges voice is.
Cheers Wolfgang

I never realized just how good Georges voice is.
Cheers Wolfgang

Check out his record "All Things Must Pass." He truly is excellent, but Paul and John always treated him like a third class Beatle, as well as ringo. Only a few of his compositions ever made it onto Beatles CDS, and that was only because he was the only one who had the true ability to create and play indian music.

But in regaurd to this new LOVE cd, I went ahead and bought it yesterday. I gotta say that I am truly impressed. I mean, there are a few parts that probably were best left alone, but overall, looking at the forest, and not the individual trees, I thought it was excellent. Right now Im listening to Lucy In the Sky With Diamonds. I never thought I would see a new beatles release in my lifetime (16 y/o). The CD sounds great on my stereo BTW.

Now there is an Album I haven't listened to in a Long time. I still have the the issue that I bought when it first came out, {all things must pass}. I can't find my "Concert to Bangladesh" anywhere though and the album venders want a fortune, same as with the "Woodstock" record album. Ill have to wait till Murray Head is finished "Say it ain't so" before I put on "All Things"
cheers Wolfgang

I've listened to it, and I like it.:music: The mix is fantastic. Apparently the 5.1 is good:smoke: with a bong. So I'm told.
Still waiting for remasters of the catalogue. It's way overdue.

Thumbs down. But then again, I am not a fan in the very least.

I am a Beatles fan :music: but have not yet heard this disc.

I am also a Cirque Du Soleil fan, and I can say that traditionally their musical backgrounds are textural, not "songs" as such. Music designed to evoke emotion or tension and move the program along, not necessarily to be enjoyed on it's own.

From all the descriptions above, I really feel like this is the approach taken here, not a "New Beatles Release", but a new Cirque soundtrack. That they chose to use the Beatle's recordings to create their audio texture for the show, well, that's just cool. Do I expect to like all the tracks as Beatle's songs? No. Do I expect to love this thing as the piece of "theatre" it is intended to be? Oh Yeah!

No it’s not your father’s mix of Beatles tunes, it’s ours!!!!

Nor is it the same as I listened to in the mid 60's.

This mix gives you the subtle things the Beats did. During the middle, beginning, end, or between tracks - there was away’s a little bonus. The clarity of the recording brings it right out in front of you. Any Beatles fan worth their salt should have this in their collection. :yes:

Post scrips

The end tone of "A Day In A Life" lasted just right ..... forever.

"I don’t know how" ....I could have enjoyed "How My Guitar Gently Weeps" without an electric guitar in the song, but I did.

Hi , It is the anniversary of Goerge's Harrisons death today at age 58 from throat cancer. They are doing a tribute on CHEZ FM here tonight in Ottawa [106.1] People can listen on the internet to CHEZ fm on there website
Sadly Wolfgang

Thanks for the heads up Redd6054!

So has anyone heard the DVD-Audio version?

I have it, the 2 disc set was on special on the opening day for 16.99 at the futer shop, but NOOO I haven't listened to it. I don't have a 5.1 system good enough to warrent it. And I'm NOT buying 3 more HPM 100's speakers! No room
cheers Wolfgang

To me, the most important part of this release was the DVD-audio. I have always wandered how the Beatles would fare on true 5.1 Dolby surround. Specially the Revolver-Sgt Pepper-Magical Mystery Tour era Beatles.

After listening to it, all I can say to George Martin and son is get to work dudes, I want the entire catalog released on DVD-audio pronto.

Javier

I bought the cd and dvd set and was mainly interested in hearing the songs in 5.1 surround. I was amazed at how good the music sounded this way. Some of the songs were not altered much or at all and it was very cool to be right in the middle of such classic music. I think this collection works so much better than the earlier "Grey Album" mixing The White Album and rap (Jay Z?).
I have all the Beatle albums on vinyl (stereo and mono), as well as a few on cd. I would love to have George Martin tackle the albums and mix them for surround. Probably won't happen though, so this will have to do.

Estring:

I vote best avitar.

sorry just hit me that way.

Finally heard this -- it sounds like two Beatles tapes being played at the same time. What a load! Gets a big ol' thumbs-down from me.

My Dad bought it and I had a listen. I thoroughly enjoy it. Essentially, it is great quality "alternate-take" CD. I wouldn't have bought it, but since Dad did, I burned it for myself.

On a side note, I find it funny how some people have such a HATEFUL opinion about a darn CD. It is JUST a CD! I dunno...My life is too precious and I don't have the energy for that stuff!! It is not like the CD is Saddam Hussein or Pol Pot!

Well, I've read every single post preceding this one and, although it looks like I'm in the minority, my opinion of the CD is this: I like it and the more I play it, the more I like it, and I wish somebody would re-master the entire Beatles catalog properly and get it over with.

Before hearing the album I was prepared to use phrases like "cash cow" "sacriledge", and the like, now I've heard it I can truly say I like it. A lot of people seem to think of original Beatles recordings as an oracle, sacred even. Fair enough, I prefer to keep an open mind.
Poor old George Martin is as deaf as a post, so his son Giles probably did most of the work, imagine trying to teach a senior citizen how to use Pro Tools, no mean feat I'm sure.

i just purchased a copy and i give it a thumbs up!!! love the sound of the dvd-audio version. i think i only paid $3 more for the dvd-audio versus the stand alone cd version. really love the george harrison version of "still my guitar gently weeps".

i only hope they reissue other beatles cd's on dvd-audio.

LP is out now I see. click (http://www.hotstuff.se/affiliatelink.asp?sku=73295)

No, I will not be purchasing it. :smoke:


Carl

I finally got around to grabbing a copy of this CD/DVD-A. The sound quality on the CD is magnificent. I will get around to listening to the DVD-A surround mix sometime this week. I hope to see some remastered Beatles albums in the future.

Sgt Peppers in 5.1...Please, Please Me!:D

I'm a bit of a Beatles purist. I was aware of this project as I've been on the Circ De Soliel announcement list for sometime but never felt the urge to pick up the CD. But a friend lent his to me a couple of weeks ago, and after one listen I bought it.

Yes it is quite different. No it isn't how the music was originally intended. But I feel that this take has a two-fold effect on me.

First, the mix on the Love CD is fabulous. And the way the Martin's have combined multiple, actual Abbey Road recordings is ingenious. Hearing "I am the Walrus" riffs embedded in "Glass Onion" works. There are several "oh wow" moments similar to this. As a previous poster mentioned, I didn't like the take on "Still My Guitar Gently Weeps" initially because I loved the guitar work, but this is a completely different song with different emotions.

Second, it has increased my appreciation for the "old way". I can't really explain how, but its kind of like listening to a recording after seeing a performer live.

Finally - my daughter (now age 12) and I snowboard together 1 or 2 times each week, and during the 30 - 40 minute drive each way, she gets to select the tunes. The White Album is one of her favorites (yeah I raised her right), so the last time she requested it I put on Love. Well she didn't like it at all.
In her words, "Its not right".

So speaking of "Love", anyone hear "Hate" yet? No *THAT* is unlistenable.

I love Love.

It's a shame instead of record companies encouraging new work, all we get is one more attempt, albeit probably profitable, to soak the public.

:music:Love Love:music:
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=102727

It is similar to the Steve Martin movie called "Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid" where he is intercut between vintage film noir movie clips. All it really did was to make me want to watch to the original movies; or in the case of 'Love', to listen to the original tracks that were used to make this sonic collage. The most interesting aspect is that the Beatles catalog hasn't been remastered since the initial cd releases in the 80's when A/D conversion was really crude. This collection really shows the upgraded quality of the new technology in mastering better sounding cds.

Does anyone know whether the vinyl was all analogue,or analogue source/digital mastering?