MurrayLives
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Don't have it on my Classic, and don't miss it.
Put your stylus under a good stylus microscope after maybe half its life without anti-skate. If you like what you see, carry on. Most won't. The mono-filament over a rod method can have higher than expected friction and hysteresis. Any wax or dry lube usually makes it worse. A small low friction bushing or switch to cotton thread sometimes improves it.
It would certainly make sense that if there is more pressure on one side of the stylus than the other, the side with higher pressure would wear faster. Surprising to me was that the Kogen study found that this did not always occur; however, 9 of the 14 styli undergoing their stylus life test without anti skate proved to wear appreciably faster on the side toward the inner groove wall. Imperfect as anti skate devices are, all six styli using anti-skate in the life test showed even wear.So maybe, even though we can get good sound with low or no anti-skate, the stylus is being worn unevenly by the absence of anti-skate?
So maybe, even though we can get good sound with low or no anti-skate, the stylus is being worn unevenly by the absence of anti-skate?
It would certainly make sense that if there is more pressure on one side of the stylus than the other, the side with higher pressure would wear faster. Surprising to me was that the Kogen study found that this did not always occur; however, 9 of the 14 styli undergoing their stylus life test without anti skate proved to wear appreciably faster on the side toward the inner groove wall. Imperfect as anti skate devices are, all six styli using anti-skate in the life test showed even wear.
If sound is largely unaffected by the presence or absence of anti-skate then it really is by chance if we get it right according to the anti-skate dial, with some dials being more accurate than others.
If sound is largely unaffected by the presence or absence of anti-skate then it really is by chance if we get it right according to the anti-skate dial, with some dials being more accurate than others.
If you are responding to me, reread my post. I said nothing about no anti skate. If meant for someone else never mind!With no anti-skate, how about extra wear to the inner groove wall due to the pull towards the spindle?
In the nearly 5 years since my original post I've come to a different conclusion about the lack of anti skate on my ATP-12T. Whether it was anti skate or cartridge matching or a combination of factors I couldn't get the sound right so I replaced the ATP-12T it with a Jelco SA-750E and got better sound. The anti skate adjustment on the Jelco applies a constant force versus the changing skating force and I had to experiment to find the best setting. It turns out very little anti skate, 0.5 as indicated on the dial, works best with the cartridges I've used.
Interesting that the paper says there's less skating force with a wet record. That's why Thorens arms have wet and dry antiskate settings.
In my own experience with a HK T-55C and the Hi-Fi News test record, a large amount of antiskate was required to get the stylus to track cleanly on both channels.