At an older gentlemen's garage sale like I like. Completely packed garage with two small tables in front of stuff he was able to ferret out of the mess. I asked if he had any old broken stereo stuff. Another older guy who was there pipes up that he has some stuff at home that he'll never use. He had this, an old Marantz AV (5001?) amp and a Realistic EQ. I passed on all but the 1030. It punches above it's weight and it's very well laid out inside. It might be a keeper.