$1500 to spend a Amp/Reciever, What would you get for Classic Rock ?

Discussion in 'General Audio Discussion' started by braincramp, Sep 19, 2017.

  1. sensei91

    sensei91 Active Member

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    I agree, our perceptions may not be similar. But I have to respectively disagree with your description of the Def Techs. The soundstage , as set up in my listening area is expansive and dynamic. What are your reference speakers ?

    I have gone to quite a few live concerts over the past six months. Small venues mostly. I didn't find it that difficult to come back and listen to my home system. Although the sound quality varied from venue to venue , from superb to so -so. , you just can't beat live music. For me, it is important to hear live music to help keep things in perspective.
     
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  2. PhilInAudio

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    Wow...another pair of old-school 70s speakers! I've never heard them before but I've always liked the lighter color veneer that Infinity used. A very good looking pair of speakers.
     
  3. MannyE

    MannyE Exterminate! Subscriber

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    Well here's another example of tastes being different! Personally I think they look awful. Like the monolith in 2001 and I wouldn't be surprised to come in one day and find a group of monkeys finally starting to use tools around mine. But they certainly do not get the respect they deserve. My BP 2002 towers are awesome.

    And by awesome I mean they have a huge soundstage with pinpoint placement of instruments and midrange clarity that, well sounds like they cost $1,000 each... which they did when I bought them new. The ability of these speakers to serve as great music speakers and then not bat an eye and deliver crazy HT sound makes them the perfect choice for the HT enthusiast that also likes to listen to music.

    Turn that around and there's no way my Yamaha 690ii can touch the Def Techs on HT... they might have an edge on music, but if I had to choose only one pair to keep, there's no contest.
     
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  4. darren

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    I think new speakers
     
  5. JoeESP9

    JoeESP9 ESL's & tubes since 83

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    They are listed in my signature; Magnepan 1.7's w/dual 12" TL subs. However, my sound reference is the Philadelphia Orchestra at the Kimmel Center.
     
  6. PhilInAudio

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    That is exactly how I used my Definitive Technology speakers, Home Theater (HT)! I totally agree that the Def Techs present an amazing soundstage. I have an ultra modern sound room that had the BP 7006s up front and the BP 7004s in rear. Star Wars never sounded so good! :) Here are a few pics of my BP 7004s:

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  7. MannyE

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    Often people who are "underwhelmed" by the bi-polar DefTechs have heard a pair that were too close to the back wall. One of the drawbacks of these speakers is that they need a LOT of breathing room. The farther out into the room they can go, the better they sound. I think the recommendation is a minimum of 18 inches away from the wall, but I tried to keep at least two feet of space all the way around. These days they are a little cramped, but when I really want to rock I pull them out into the room and crank it.
     
  8. Delta77

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    I agree with sensei91,
    It may be time to start getting out of mainstream equipment ?
    I would say Speakers first so that you can actually Hear the upgrades that you WILL be making,
    (if you’re as hooked as I am)..
    Spend as much as you can , even more than you can afford ( slightly) so that you don’t want to upgrade in the near future..
    $1500 -$2000 will get you a lot of choices..
    Don’t go mainstream, go Internet Direct ..
    Do some investigating and maybe visit the company and listen in person..(if near)
    I took a chance on TEKTON Design and am Happy with my purchase,($1600)
    just a step above any brand I’ve heard in any retail store..
    Talk to Eric he will have something in your price range and your music taste..(or he’ll make it)..

    I’ve never heard these but, I would like to try some “SALK” ,or “Daedalus” ,maybe some “Spatial” open baffle speakers myself..
    I have heard some “Ryan” speakers at LAAS 2017 that were impressive..
    Buying direct , your just gonna get more for your money
     
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  9. PhilInAudio

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    JoeESP9, you are very very lucky to live in Philadelphia and have the opportunity to hear the Philadelphia Orchestra regularly!

    I was born and raised in Cleveland and I was 9 years old when I heard the Cleveland Orchestra for the last time. I have not forgotten it!

    Unfortunately, I don't know a lot about classical music but I found over the yeas that I do like Mozart. Also, unfortunately, I don't have the speakers that play classical well. That aside, the piece that always blows me away is Mozart's Quartet no. 20, D, KV.499. I especially like the second movement, which you probably already know.

    But in case you don't, as I was preparing this message, I found a fabulous YouTube video that covers the entire piece! The second movement starts at 9:37 and ends at 12:30. The part that gets me is the descending triplets that start at 10:00 and resolve back to the head at 10:11. I hope you like this piece:

     
  10. PhilInAudio

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    I get your point. For me, I love restoring old vintage stuff...plus I love the sound of it!!! I'm very lucky because I truly have found the sound that I've always been looking for. Plus, at this point, if I went up-scale in price...I'd be forced to go to "single's" bars! :)
     
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  11. sensei91

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    Yes, right, you did mention that, sorry I missed it.
    Are you also listening elsewhere ?
    I had a chance recently to purchase an older used set of Maggies, but I thought they might need some work, and I am not that familiar with them to take on as a project.. I have the room, but not in my main listening area.. Again, the problem for me is low volume listening on them. But I was tempted, I have a C 28 Mcintosh preamp that I am not even using , and was thinking about getting them and another power amp.
    Regardless, I am sure you enjoy them .
    I am fortunate to have the Harford Symphony orchestra close by, and an excellent NPR station that plays Classical and Jazz. FM reception for me is stellar , with just a powered Terk indoor.

    Your Maggies are around twice the price as the BP10, so that is also an important point.

    I also use a live DVD recording for reference , which is Keith Emerson Band Live in Moscow. Out of all the DVD concerts I have , and heard, nothing approaches this recording IMO. You can play it in two channel also , , so I would suggest it to anyone, especially if you have subs. Make sure you use analog out , not HDMI. I was lucky enough to meet and talk to the lead guitarist on the DVD a few months ago before a live concert. The soundstage of the BP10 is really demonstrated quite well on this recording.
     
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  13. merkin muffley

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    Trying to remember who in Philly sold Maggies...Radio 437? Muchnicks?? I was a mystery shopper for Harmon International then, and went to all the stores....
     

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