jritchie1980
Audiologist
Longtime Audio Tinker-er just got back into vinyl love my setup for the most part BUT:
Marvin Gaye and Willie Nelson vocals are fatiguing and "tinny" maybe not tinney but def fatiguing. Like nails on a chalk board. If a chalk board was really sweet sounding most of the time.
Tends to only happen during powerful passages. Upper Mids of each singers range. The part that makes them them
Here is the rig:
Technics SL-D2 w/ ADC XLM IMPROVED MK II cart (w/ QLM stylus) or Shure M44G cart ($30 w/ ADC cart)
Carver tfm-35 amp (paid $40 had to re solder one rear channel terminal)
Pioneer Elite vsx-82txs receiver (pure direct mode to carver) paid $150 w advent center and def Audio sat's
Speakers Available:
Acoustic Research SAT 660 (the REAL ones not white truck) w/ passive sub (current setup) paid $15/pr
Paradigm Titan's (original) paid $15/pr
Paradigm 5SeMkII's (I have 5 paid $15-35ea)
Polk Satallites ($15/pr)
Definitive Audio Pro Cinema100 mkII (bundled w Pioneer & advent $150 total)
Definitive Audio sub (paid $30)
Audio Technica M50 headphones
Shure 215 earphones
When I listen through the M50's I have the same problem so I think it may be my cart/stylus setup. Although I have thought also it could be a recap needed on carver or speakers. And I've thought it is used records. And I've thought.....
What can I do to diagnose this issue?
Carts are aligned. cables/speaker wires are good. Classical music/Nine Inch Nails/Everything Else sounds pretty awesome. Shure has some siblance on inner grooves and is less detailed than ADC so I like using the ADC better (although hip hop and anything w/ a strong bass line sounds good w Shure). My gut tells me if I get a better needle for it (ADC) I MIGHT get rid of the problem. But I am a cheap ass/bargain hunter so I want to eliminate EVERY other problem 1st before I go and spend more than I did on the rest of my setup on a needle. Plus a good needle for that cart is ~100 and I kinda want to experiment w MC next so I don't really want to blow that cart $$ on a needle when it sounds good on 98% of music.
Please help me if you have ever had a similar issue/have an opinion/want to spitball
Any/All comments and suggestions appreciated!!!!
PS I went back and added price paid to demonstrate how much I HUNT for audio bargains.I believe in the Billy Joel idiom "Don't waste your money on a new set of speakers, you get more mileage from a used set of speakers" it's basically gospel to me
Marvin Gaye and Willie Nelson vocals are fatiguing and "tinny" maybe not tinney but def fatiguing. Like nails on a chalk board. If a chalk board was really sweet sounding most of the time.
Tends to only happen during powerful passages. Upper Mids of each singers range. The part that makes them them
Here is the rig:
Technics SL-D2 w/ ADC XLM IMPROVED MK II cart (w/ QLM stylus) or Shure M44G cart ($30 w/ ADC cart)
Carver tfm-35 amp (paid $40 had to re solder one rear channel terminal)
Pioneer Elite vsx-82txs receiver (pure direct mode to carver) paid $150 w advent center and def Audio sat's
Speakers Available:
Acoustic Research SAT 660 (the REAL ones not white truck) w/ passive sub (current setup) paid $15/pr
Paradigm Titan's (original) paid $15/pr
Paradigm 5SeMkII's (I have 5 paid $15-35ea)
Polk Satallites ($15/pr)
Definitive Audio Pro Cinema100 mkII (bundled w Pioneer & advent $150 total)
Definitive Audio sub (paid $30)
Audio Technica M50 headphones
Shure 215 earphones
When I listen through the M50's I have the same problem so I think it may be my cart/stylus setup. Although I have thought also it could be a recap needed on carver or speakers. And I've thought it is used records. And I've thought.....
What can I do to diagnose this issue?
Carts are aligned. cables/speaker wires are good. Classical music/Nine Inch Nails/Everything Else sounds pretty awesome. Shure has some siblance on inner grooves and is less detailed than ADC so I like using the ADC better (although hip hop and anything w/ a strong bass line sounds good w Shure). My gut tells me if I get a better needle for it (ADC) I MIGHT get rid of the problem. But I am a cheap ass/bargain hunter so I want to eliminate EVERY other problem 1st before I go and spend more than I did on the rest of my setup on a needle. Plus a good needle for that cart is ~100 and I kinda want to experiment w MC next so I don't really want to blow that cart $$ on a needle when it sounds good on 98% of music.
Please help me if you have ever had a similar issue/have an opinion/want to spitball
Any/All comments and suggestions appreciated!!!!
PS I went back and added price paid to demonstrate how much I HUNT for audio bargains.I believe in the Billy Joel idiom "Don't waste your money on a new set of speakers, you get more mileage from a used set of speakers" it's basically gospel to me