Backing up library from file on JRiver23??

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  1. botrytis

    botrytis Trying not to be a Small Speaker Hoarder Subscriber

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    They were talking to Sony, RCA, Deustche Grammophone, and 1or 2 others.
     

     

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  2. +48V

    +48V hi-fi or die

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    1. Who is "They"?
    2. What were "they" talking about with these labels?
     
  3. botrytis

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    Roon Labs - talking to the actual labels to use their DB's to check metadata on the digital audio. DCS, who works closely with Roon Labs, was talking about this since the offer Roon with their players.
     
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    OK...that's better. So, dcs was saying that Roon was talking/approaching record labels about accessing their in-house DBs. I have no reason to doubt that conversational claim by dcs as a third party. But, since Roon's launch to the present, that is not how it works botrytis.

    Roon does not directly pay nor directly access record label databases. Roon is expensive for a reason, but paying labels for metadata is not one of them.

    Roon's metadata is sourced from:
    • Rovi (now d.b.a. TiVo)
    • MusicBrainz free open source db
    • Local library file tags
    • User edits performed within Roon
    • Tidal's tags (if linked to Tidal subscription)
    From there Roon uses proprietary algorithms to "smartly" sift, sort, and arrange the metadata displayed in their player.
     
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  5. rwartner

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    I rip using Windows Media Player. I play the music with JRiver.

    Trying to answer some of the questions -

    When player stops and starts are there other apps running?
    It does not take long for JRiver to build the library. I would not worry about that.
    All you need to do is point JRiver to a folder and it will build the library (import it).

    What you want to do is create on main folder and then create subfolders under it. That way you point to one folder in music player and it automatically grabs everything underneath.

    Folder example: The folders Rock, Soul, Surf are underneath the main folder MusicLibrary.

    -MusicLibrary
    --Rock
    ----The Beatles
    ----The Stones
    --Soul
    --Surf

    In JRiver under menu Audio/Files you can nominate where folder is located. So you would point at MusicLibrary.

    In JRiver under menu Tools/Import you nominate the folder to import the files. I selected Configure Auto-Import so it will watch this folder.

    This will build the library. Mine is 2300 CDs and takes under 30 minutes.

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    Nothing else was running....just stops randomly.
    Regarding Windows Media Player and ripping...under the "Rip Music" window......'Rip Settings'...should I pick MP3 or something else to get a perfect ripped copy?...same goes for 'Audio Quality"....slide the bar to the far right for 'Best Quality"?....Sorry,but I am very dumb when it comes to computer anything!!.
    My wife basically did all my ripping on JRiver!
    Thanks,Huck
    p.s. Not sure what happened with the multiple quotes ^^!
     

     

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  7. botrytis

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    in WMP - pick WAV or lossless WMA. I know there is a way to rip to FLAC in WMP but I haven't done in it in Win 10.
     
  8. Huck

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    Thanks! I will try my first rip on my own today..I have a few MFSL c.d's I would like to rip.Thanks,Huck
     
  9. botrytis

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    Remember WMA has the meta data and WAV is basically copying the CD to your HD - it is an exact copy of the data on the CD's.
     
  10. Huck

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    Hi:
    I just ripped Heart- MFSL c.d. using WAV and I played it back and it sounded very thin,no bottom end...probably doing something wrong.?!
    I ripped it using JRiver and playback sounds way better.....?! Huck
     
  11. botrytis

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    Did you use the same program to play the 2 files? Or WMP with one and JRiver for the other? That is your issue. Different programs WILL sound different.
     

     

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    Create a folder to rip music. Mine is C:\MusicTransfer

    There are 4 lossless formats to choose.
    I would pick Windows Media Audio (WMA) Lossless or FLAC (Lossless)
     
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    :thumbsup::trebon: Thanks for that.
     
  14. JoeESP9

    JoeESP9 ESL's & tubes since 83

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    I'd go with FLAC.
     
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    I rip files on one computer and copy them to 2 TB 3.0 USB Drive connected to music player laptop.

    Once you have ripped and copied etc. Need to setup JRiver Audio settings.

    Menu: Tools\Options

    Under Audio Device need to go through options. Pick WASAPI if an option.
    Check out Device settings.

    Then under Settings go to DSP & output format


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    This is DSP settings. note the Output 48,000 Hz for everything. I do not play hires.

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  16. JoeESP9

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    I stay away from resampling any file and set my players to play a file in the format (sample/bit rate) it was recorded. I also stay away from volume leveling or normalization. IMO everything is not supposed to be the same level.
     
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  17. botrytis

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    I do the same.
     
  18. KrisM

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    I'm all about just using Folder style playback for VA albums.
    Folders are labelled "Various - album title", and all individual tracks labelled with the track title and the artist. Tracks are numbered 01, 02, etc(or 001, 002, etc for really big comps). Hit go on track one, and let it play.

    My biggest beef with VA titles and music player programs are how they populate the Artist list.
    There are a whole lotta artists I will never look up on a set like this, but I still need to sift past them when looking for a particular performer.
    https://thirdmanstore.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-paramount-records-volume-1-volume-2-bundle
     
  19. Huck

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    Thanks..are you saying to pick 48,000Hz from that bunch?...I don't play SACD,DVD audio,etc,just Redbook c.d.'s.Thanks,Huck
     
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  20. JoeESP9

    JoeESP9 ESL's & tubes since 83

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    Redbook CD's are all 16/44.1. All the players I use allow for setting the output to be the same bit/sampling rate as the file. Why would you resample files and change the bit rate? Why add more to the reproduction train?
     

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