Figured out the speed problem for Pioneer PL-41 & PL-50 tables

Discussion in 'Turntables' started by Metalownz, Oct 21, 2014.

  1. Jim Creek

    Jim Creek Jazz, Wine, Electronics

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    LP Gear used to sell the correct belt. I bought one. It's perfect. However, lately I've been hearing that LP Gear no longer sells the correct belt. Apparently, they sold out of the correct belts and are subsituting thicker belts.

    The correct belt thickness should be around 0.6mm or about 0.025". Thacker sells one but it's much shorter than 34.1". I bought it as a back up belt. It works well enough, if very very slightly slow. Thacker sells this belt as a replacement for the PL30.

    Here's a thread that discusses this issue: http://audiokarma.org/forums/index....easurements-bad-vs-good.755161/#post-10321001
     
  2. Skytrooper

    Skytrooper New Member

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    Thanks, I canceled my order. I'm thinking of chucking my capstan in my drill press and slowly taking it down with emery paper.
     
  3. Jim Creek

    Jim Creek Jazz, Wine, Electronics

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    No, don't shave the capstan. You will ruin the capstan forever.

    I would buy the Thakker belt. Your Pioneer will run at the correct speed with it. It is substantially shorter than the correct belt but it will work. I bought one. I recieved it within a week of ordering.

    It runs very very very slightly slow. The speed error is inconsequential.

    https://www.thakker.eu/en/belts/turntables/pioneer-pl-30-original-thakker-belt/a-3568/
     
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  4. Metalownz

    Metalownz Audiophile? Getting there

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    Im so out of the loop on the correct belt, but i can tell you LP Gear did sell the correct one when i bought two awhile back.
     
  5. Thunderbox

    Thunderbox AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    I just tried 3 different belts on my Onky0 CP-1026A. The thinner the belt the faster the speed of the platter. The thickest belt produced the slowest speeds.
     
  6. parman

    parman Vinyl Addiction Subscriber

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    I just started researching belts for a PL-50 I picked up. This info is pretty disapointing, I wonder if there's any chance LP Gear will go back to their other supplier?? I intend to contact them and ask.
     
  7. GlennEddy

    GlennEddy New Member

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    In the interest of confirmation that a thicker belt does indeed increase the speed of a PL-41 TT. I own two, side by side. My first TT is running 34.4ish and my other is 33.3.

    Feeling the belt thickness the faster one is definitely thicker to the touch. That is by example, like cardboard is thicker than paper..(thickness not height).
     

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  8. GlennEddy

    GlennEddy New Member

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    Would love to hear that answer if you get/got one.
     
  9. parman

    parman Vinyl Addiction Subscriber

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    I stayed in contact with LP Gear and later in the summer they did get the correct belts back in stock. I was happy about that!
     
  10. GlennEddy

    GlennEddy New Member

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    Thanks much for the update!

    They are currently out of stock but I will keep my eye open.
     
  11. parman

    parman Vinyl Addiction Subscriber

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    They put me on a waiting list or I signed up online for the waiting list. It wasn't long before they contacted me to go ahead and order
     
  12. GlennEddy

    GlennEddy New Member

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    Requested to be put on a waiting list. Thanks!
     

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