Fisher Consoles 1959-1965

Discussion in 'Fisher' started by TheRed1, Jan 30, 2008.

  1. TheRed1

    TheRed1 Console Conservationist

    I was wondering about that myself. But when you add the price of some halfway decent speakers to the price of a console you're starting to get up there into the price realm of the highly-rated component systems.

    Many of these manufacturers were only in their first or second year of solid-state electronics. I don't think a lot of these products were really ready to hit the showroom quite yet. I wonder if the reputations of some of these companies weren't really damaged by their rush to get transistorized products on the market before they were ready. Perhaps this illustrates one of the weaknesses in the US electronics industry that gave overseas manufacturers their opportunity to break into the US market.

    Fisher was surprisingly conservative with their introduction of solid-state technology. Avery was usually all about "firsts" but for some reason he held onto the tube technology for a lot longer than many of his rivals - and we thank him for that.
  2. thorenstd124

    thorenstd124 Super Member

    I like how the Zenith is rated a close second to the Fisher.I don't think Zenith gets nearly the respect it does,compared to Magnavox.I don't want to use mine any more,until I get it recapped and tuned up,but I can't wait until I can use it with the XP7s.

    Magnavox may have had the Jensens,but that 2g/Cobra combination on the '62-'63 is great too.

    What is the original source of this ?
  3. thorenstd124

    thorenstd124 Super Member

    I was not aware Clairtone had made any tube consoles.
  4. larryderouin

    larryderouin AK Subscriber Subscriber

    V-M is the source for the Cobramatic table and Zenith has the arm/headshell fitted.

    I believe it a Consumer's Report Article.

  5. larryderouin

    larryderouin AK Subscriber Subscriber

    Add another member to Larry's Console Stable. A 1959 FISHER 510 Series Consolette sans the 560 extension. Got it from Red. Definately needs a ReCap. Brought it up on the Variac, and almost as soon as I hit 90-100Volts, one ofthe 6BQ5's started Redplating. Tubes all tested good. ALL TUBES are FISHER Branded made in Great Britain. Swapped the outputs and same condition. So the amp is out for rehab. This has the 2.5oHm output transformer. It has 3 8" full range drivers, 2 of which have whizzer cones.

    EDIT: (02Oct12) Mid June I believe it was BugleGirl completed the 510 / 560 combo with a 560 in running shape, also a 610 chassis. The 510 is now a 610. Strictly "PLUG AND PLAY! Absolutely no changes to the cabinet were made, except for the face plate for the tuner. So the 510 and 610 amplifiers are interchangeable with no mods. this is an Early 610 chassis as there is no provision for MPX, altho the addition of the RCA Jacks and a couple of wires for MPX is straightforward.

    Also has a Garrard RC121-MKII. Never seen a Garrard with all meta Gear Train. Surprisingly it's not any noisier than other units with plastic or phenolic gear trains. The Stylus is in Decent shape however the suspension on the cartridge is shot. So I'm going to put a Pickering 400V.3 on it. @ 10mv output it'll do the job. it's about the same weight as the Sonotone.

    2 of the knob brights were missing and found when the unit was dis-assembled for inspection, under the changer. Some Glue and all knobs are now bright.

    It's in the bedroom right now. If I can find a 560, great. If not I can hook it up to my RCA SHF-5 and use it as an extension.

    DAMNED CUTE little FISHER! Now to get it running.

    The 61 Coronet II (C-55) cabinet is crying out for a recever or separates. I had my 400 in it before I sold the 400. So I'm seriously considering putting the 800C into the cabinet. Sort of a poor man's Executive.

    Last edited: Jan 9, 2016
  6. vsam

    vsam New Member

    Since this post was from last year, you know by now that I'm another "saddest case," having inherited a GORGEOUS truly custom console, boohoopoorpoorpitifulme. LOL.

    I'm also laughing at your explanation of your avatar's ultimate intent and your grid pics - reminds me of my dad and his plotting everything on graph paper to ensure exactly where chosen pieces, including said Fisher console, would go when they moved into this (current) house. And the avatar creative process sounds more than a little familiar. Seems I'm not the only one who slaved over a dumb little graphic. ;-)
  7. AZOrganist

    AZOrganist New Member

    We've had a Contemporary C-810 and Stereo Companion 560 in the family for years; it sat for years in our guest room as decorative furniture for many years. For Christmas last year my partner had the whole thing gone over, and we've been enjoying it now for several weeks.

    Capacitors have been replaced, and tubes have all been checked. The radio may never again be what it once was, but the amps sound terrific. We're not going to do anything with the old Garrard changer; my Dual 1229 plugged into a phono preamp sounds magnificent on this rig. We are cheating in one regard, though: tonight I plugged my old Pioneer graphic equalizer in to see if the midrange could be tamed on the speakers--they were much too "forward" for my taste, and the high treble much too weak. It seems to have worked; a big cut at 1 kHz and a somewhat lesser one at 4 kHz, plus even smaller ones at 250 Hz and 2 kHz balance the tone considerably--the treble comes through better now.

    I'm amazed at how authoritatively this console fills a huge living room!
  8. juanrmag

    juanrmag New Member

    New Fisher console owner!

    Well, just picked up a Custom Electra V Modern this weekend. It is my first console and first vacuum tube-driven audio component. The thing is in fairly tip top shape. I think one of the midrange drivers is out and every so often the audio crackles in & out...not sure if that is the electronics or the vinyl or what. Overall, though, it sounds pretty good.

    It appears to be all original tubes, everything appears to work, and even the business card from the dealer is taped to the back - looks to have been local all its life. It has the MPX unit installed, though it is not reflected in the model # tag on the back with an "X". I plan to spend some time here learning how I can get this beauty cleaned up a bit more. After just a wipe down and polish with a bit of lemon oil the cabinet looks great. I certainly wouldn't guess it is 50 years old. How do I know if I need/should re-cap?

    Also, was originally planning to plug in a standalone turntable to the Aux in, but it is only mono aux in :(
    Can I plug in another stereo source into the MPX inputs instead or will that not work? What is the REV in/out used for? I searched and haven't found anything about this, yet.

    Here's some initial pics...

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  9. TheRed1

    TheRed1 Console Conservationist

    Congratulations! The CE V Modern cabinet is one of Fisher's all-time best designs (in my opinion). Yours looks to be in excellent condition.

    Jon has the service manual available at the website. I took a quick look at the preamp schematic. I wonder why they only offered a mono AUX input on this model - that was uncharacteristically stingy for Fisher. My '59 Contemporary II is both earlier and further down in the model hierarchy but it has stereo AUX inputs.

    I presume the standalone turntable you mention has a low-level output magnetic cartridge. In that case you should have good results using the MPX inputs providing you use an outboard phono preamp. Alternately, you could use the PHONO inputs but you'd have to either unplug the on-board changer or use an input switching device. Looking at the schematic, the 460-T's PHONO inputs do appear to be low-level inputs designed for magnetic cartridges. They have an extra preamp stage as well as RIAA EQ.
  10. juanrmag

    juanrmag New Member

    Yeah, it thought it odd there was not stereo aux inputs. Now that you say it, an external switcher on the phono input does sound like the best idea, to take advantage of the built-in preamp stage.

    Looking at the back label stamped "W" I am taking that to mean walnut finish. Does that sound right?
  11. TheRed1

    TheRed1 Console Conservationist

    Yes and walnut almost always equals modern/contemporary. Somewhere I posted a list of Fisher 'cabinet codes'. . . here:

    Sometimes they indicate the wood (which was used in a particular style console - i.e.: W = Walnut = Modern/Contemporary) and sometimes they indicate the style (for which a particular type of wood was usually used - i.e.: P = Provincial = Cherry/Fruitwood). Fisher was very consistent in their inconsistencies.
  12. Sam Cogley

    Sam Cogley Last of the Time Lords Subscriber

    That damned "P" code...sometimes it even shows up where the factory says it couldn't. :D
  13. sslade43

    sslade43 Active Member

    What's a Custom Electric V Modern look worth in working condition? I picked one up that was supposedly working a couple months ago. I've never owned a console before, so I am excited to check the Fisher console out.
  14. sslade43

    sslade43 Active Member

    Well, I got it home and it works! Evidently the previous owner didn't know how to operate it. Where is the aux on the 460a? I can't seem to find it and I want to test it out.
  15. juanrmag

    juanrmag New Member

    It's just left of/and next to the Phono inputs. It's just a single RCA since the Aux is mono only.
  16. sslade43

    sslade43 Active Member

    Thanks, I found it!
  17. sslade43

    sslade43 Active Member


    Here are a couple pictures of the console. I still can't believe the previous owner didn't think it worked. :banana: It sounds great!
  18. shacky

    shacky Addicted Member

  19. TheRed1

    TheRed1 Console Conservationist

    Congratulations! Yet another beautiful CE V! That wouldn't, by any chance, be the Delaware one, would it? There have been some real interesting Fisher consoles popping up recently. Late Summer/Fall is always a dangerous time for me.
  20. sslade43

    sslade43 Active Member

    Thanks. No, I'm in Kansas.

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