Identifying Your Advent Loudspeakers

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This was an intelligent and valuable thread about the lineage of Advent speakers; but, posts such as "Are Large Advents sealed in the original boxes for $4 at Goodwill reasonable?" risk reducing it to a stream of braggadocio, banal questions, and trivial observations.

I concur, Mcleavy. I helped getting this "sticky" thread off the ground, and it was Jpdylon's, the forum moderator's and my clear intention from the outset that the objective of the thread was to discuss differences of the proliferations of various Advent models during their 25 years of production or so. As such, posts along the lines of "Should I get these.....", "What do you think of......", Is......a good price" should be separated from this thread (and arguably in some cases go to D&S).

However, regardless of what we collectively might think is appropriate for this Advent sticky, Jpdylon as the original poster spelled out in unusual detail and forcefulness in Post #1 to this thread his aims for it:
This is NOT a thread to post "LOOK WHAT ADVENTS I GOT!" or "WHAT DO I HAVE?" This is simply a reference.
My view is that identifying Advents is the main objective of the thread, but that discussions around valuations, maintenance, finds and "scores" are not! Jpdylon might add his $0.02 worth in due course.
 
Thanks for bringing that to my attention Njord. I had not seen this thread lately. I understand that it is easier to hijack the thread to ask a question since its somewhat on topic, but please remember I originally created this is an information source and not so much a place for discussion unless its related to adding information to the thread (sources for grill cloth, crossover info, replacement driver sources etc.)

I greatly appreciate future advent topics posted outside this thread.

Thanks.
 
Powered Advents anyone?

Information on them is painfully sparse and I would like to know a bit about them before I plug them in.
 
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Notes: A dual 8" two way design with a soft dome tweeter. The advent towers were best for places where size was a problem and you still wanted good bass response. The Heritage are the best in the tower line of jensen advents. Reported to be a 6 ohm speaker.
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.... so are they 6ohms? Is "Reported to be a 6ohm speaker" like saying ..'someone told me they were 6ohms' and its not for surely a 6ohm speaker? Just wanted to know, cause it says no where on my speakers what the ohms are and i would like to set my reciever up accordingly.
 
Powered Advents anyone?

Information on them is painfully sparse and I would like to know a bit about them before I plug them in.

Check the New Large advent post in the thread. I've updated it with a bit of info I've found on AK about the powered advents. :)

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Notes: A dual 8" two way design with a soft dome tweeter. The advent towers were best for places where size was a problem and you still wanted good bass response. The Heritage are the best in the tower line of jensen advents. Reported to be a 6 ohm speaker.
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.... so are they 6ohms? Is "Reported to be a 6ohm speaker" like saying ..'someone told me they were 6ohms' and its not for surely a 6ohm speaker? Just wanted to know, cause it says no where on my speakers what the ohms are and i would like to set my reciever up accordingly.

There is no exact record of what impedence they are. The last pair I worked on measured around 4.8 ohms which is pretty damn close to 6 ohms of impedance. Measuring the DC resistance of a speaker usually shows up as about 80% of its real impedance.

If i had the exact spec, I would definitely have posted it :yes:
 
Okay folks, this thread has been cleaned up and will remained locked as it's sole purpose is to provide information about Advent loudspeakers. If you have any information, specs or pictures that you'd like to contribute, PM Jordan or me. Thanks.
 
White Mini Advents with Mini Sub

Lotussp sent me the following to add to the thread. Thanks Stan! -Celt

"I used to sell Advents in the Jensen Esmark era. Had a set in black that I gave to a friend of mine (with the sub as well). I picked the Mini Indoor/Outdoor speakers over the indoor version. At the time because I felt their tonal balance was better in the better midrange; the regular mini's had a "boxy" sound. Possibly due to the porting. The Sub for the Mini's shored up the bass but not substantially. Wasn't a bad combo, and the Indoor/Outdoor Advents have aged fairly well.

Interior Shot of the Mini Sub... two six inch woofers as best as I can tell.
The Mini's woofer is NOT paper as the regular Mini's, but Poly. Still Foam surround though with the same Audax-like tweeter.

-Stan"
 

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Hi all!

What follows is a review of a little-known speaker by Advent, the A2000. Built under the International Jensen Company of Illinois as Advent in the late 1980’s early 1990’s, and possibly in conjunction with the “New Vision” series 250, 350, and 500 speakers. (Maybe some Advent savant can add some clarity here...)

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The A2000 is an impressive-looking tower speaker, standing just over 45” tall. Each speaker comprises of a 1” poly dome tweeter and two 6.5” pressed paper cone woofers with foam surrounds. The woofers have a vented pole piece to assist in heat dissipation and a very large magnet assembly. Voicecoil diameter is approximately 1.25”. The cones looked to be fairly rigid and thick.

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Included in this review are photos of the woofers and tweeters, showing the following identification numbers on the magnet assemblies:

Woofer (x2): 25033-220-1151 (Very similar to the woofer used on the Advent Laureate, but those are typically marked 25032. Perhaps these are cosmetically slightly different, or a modified suspension to accommodate a vented cabinet?)

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Tweeter: 99-20240-313TND (Same model number as used on the Advent Laureate)

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The crossover is simplistic, but effective and is attached to the terminal cups located at the base of the speaker. I couldn’t find an equivalent crossover online, but the model number is 99-20300. It would seem from the markings that the upper woofer has a different crossover point than the lower one. I couldn't confirm this definitively. The woofers measured about 5.6 ohm, the tweeter read 5.8 ohm, so nominal 8 ohm impedance for all the drivers.

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Essentially, this looks like a modernized redesign of the Laureate with a taller profile, slimmer footprint, and non-standard cabinet shape.

The cabinet design is very unique as it is an irregular hexagonal shape. The cabinet is made of 3/4” MDF, wrapped in wood-grain laminate “film”, and topped with a 3/16” thick acrylic panel, in gloss black. The cabinet also sits approximately 3” from the floor, supported by a rectangular wood base, and a triangular-shaped platform. The platform hides a small, down-firing bass port.

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Unlike some rumors online, this speaker design is not a transmission line, but a standard bass-reflex design. There’s no internal cabinet bracing, it is assumed that the angular cabinet side panel attachments will secure the cabinet enough to effectively reduce resonances. Each cabinet is only treated with a 2” thick layer of fiberglass insulation that runs from top-to-bottom along the inside back wall of the cabinet.

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The overall appearance of the speakers is, as mentioned, impressive, and definitely gives the impression of quality.

Now for the sound….

After warming these up with Bruckner’s Symphony No 4 on an unmolested DMM pressing from 1986, I was very pleased with the presentation of the program. Instrumentation was easily identifiable, and midrange responsiveness was very pleasing. These speakers certainly have a mellow sound, but not a muted one. And they can play loudly when asked to. Although they liked being stretched by my BX3 amp in bridged (BTL) mode, rated at 300 w RMS (600W program) per channel, they also delivered the goods at more moderate listening levels. As compared to my DCM TW1A’s, these speakers were brighter and a bit more forward, pleasantly so. And did so at a wider range of volumes than the DCM do.

Switching genre’s and formats, I decided to play Adele’s “21” via a high bitrate (though still lossy) MP3 format from my NAD T512 player. This record has all of the facets of modern overproduced pop, but with certain softer characteristics that make it challenging for many speakers to deliver adequately. Adele’s voice, combined with pulsing base, piano, and synthesized accompaniment can show the flaws in many setups (mine included).

Playing “21” these speakers presented vocals very well. My guess is the tweeter has a very low crossover point as Adele’s voice was produced effortlessly and without any messy interference from the woofers resonating in the lower range (“Crosstalk” I think it’s called?) The soundfield was a bit narrower than my DCM, to be expected, but still able to paint a clean picture. Upper frequencies were very impressive. Also interesting was that these speakers were not as particular about “toe-in” as I had expected to produce the designed image. Head-on, or a few degrees of toe, and the result was largely the same.

Bass extension from the midbass down to about 50-60 Hz was very solid, but there is a distinct cabinet resonance at around 100-120Hz. It wasn’t “buzzy” like some vented enclosures, but it was there. I think improved dampening of the cabinet would help soften this effect. Bass below 50Hz pretty much disappeared, roll-off was very rapid. These speakers, despite their size, need a subwoofer to be effective for home theater or musical tastes that require additional “thump thump.”

What I did notice was that room resonance was vastly improved with this speaker. The platform it rests on acts to couple the speaker to the room, assisting in absorbing unwanted vibration, rather than transmitting it audibly back up through the cabinet. As a result, male vocals from the same genre of “synthesized pop” music, in this case Active Child’s “Hanging On” were presented cleanly and without much coloration.

My final observation about these speakers is that they are fatigue-free. After about an hour of intense listening (or should I say procrastination!?), my ears wanted more. The overall balance of these speakers is very good. Having not put them against the Laureate, but having heard other Advents in my time, I’d say they are fairly characteristic of the Advent sound. Bass is controlled and ever-present, midrange is smooth with strong female vocals and instrumentation, and the high end sizzles without being too sharp.

Thanks for reading. I hope this review was helpful to chronicle the history of Advent, and International Jensen’s “parts bin” experiments of the early 90’s.

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Found this Advent advertisement from the September 1992 issue of "Stereo Review"

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From Kevin/New Vision 250:


1992-93 Advent loudspeaker home audio reference data:
Heritage
MSRP=$350/ea
Model: A1028
Frequency Response=42Hz to 23kHz +/-3dB
Impedance=6to8 ohms
Recommended Amplifier Power=10-150 Watts
Sensitivity (2.83 volts @1 meter)=89.5dB
Crossover Frequency=3.5kHz
Resonance=55Hz +/-5Hz
Harmonic Distortion= <5% above 75Hz @ 1 Watt
Tweeter Dispersion (Variance 30° V or H to 13kHz)= <+/-1dB
Tweeter=1” ferrofluid filled parabolic soft dome
Woofers=Co-Active dual 8” high extrusion aluminum coil form
Cabinet Size (HxWxD)=37-3/4”x 10-1/2” x 13-1/8”
Weight=46 lbs./ea
Finish=Oiled solid pecan wood top and face, black textured vinyl over dense fiberboard

Laureate
MSRP=$275/ea
Model: A1030
Frequency Response=42Hz to 23kHz +/-3dB
Impedance=6to8 ohms
Recommended Amplifier Power=10-125 Watts
Sensitivity (2.83 volts @1 meter)=90dB
Crossover Frequency=3kHz
Resonance=50Hz +/-3Hz
Harmonic Distortion= <1% above 80Hz @ 1 Watt
Tweeter Dispersion (Variance 30° V or H to 13kHz)= <+/-1dB
Tweeter=1” ferrofluid filled parabolic soft dome
Woofers=dual 6-1/2” high extrusion aluminum coil form
Cabinet Size (HxWxD)=33-7/8”x 9” x 12-3/4”
Weight=35 lbs./ea
Finish=Oiled solid pecan wood top and face, black textured vinyl over dense fiberboard

Legacy II
MSRP=$225/ea
Model: A1046
Frequency Response=42Hz to 23kHz +/-3dB
Impedance=6to8 ohms
Recommended Amplifier Power=10-100 Watts
Sensitivity (2.83 volts @1 meter)=90dB
Crossover Frequency=2kHz (Legacy III=2.5kHz)
Resonance=51Hz +/-3Hz
Harmonic Distortion= <1% above 50Hz @ 1 Watt
Tweeter Dispersion (Variance 30° V or H to 13kHz)= <+/-1dB
Tweeter=1” ferrofluid filled parabolic soft dome
Woofer=10” high extrusion aluminum coil form
Cabinet Size (HxWxD)=28-1/4”x 16” x 9-3/4”
Weight=46.5 lbs./ea
Finish=Oiled solid pecan wood top and face, black textured vinyl over dense fiberboard

Prodigy Tower
MSRP=$380/pair
Model: A1080
Frequency Response=42Hz to 23kHz +/-3dB
Impedance=6to8 ohms
Recommended Amplifier Power=10-75 Watts
Sensitivity (2.83 volts @1 meter)=89dB
Crossover Frequency=3kHz
Resonance=60Hz +/-5Hz
Harmonic Distortion= <0.8% above 80Hz @ 1 Watt
Tweeter Dispersion (Variance 30° V or H to 13kHz)= <+/-1dB
Tweeter=3/4” ferrofluid filled parabolic soft dome (Prodigy II=PPTA high performance)
Woofer=8” high extrusion aluminum coil form
Cabinet Size (HxWxD)=28-1/2”x 10” x 8-7/8”
Weight=25.5 lbs./ea
Finish=Oiled solid pecan or black oak wood top and base, black textured vinyl over dense fiberboard
Video Shield Prodigy Tower
MSRP=$438/pair
Model: A1065
Tweeter=3/4” ferrofluid filled parabolic soft dome (Prodigy II=PPTA high performance)
Woofer=8” high extrusion, magnetically shielded aluminum coil form
Cabinet Size (HxWxD)=28-1/2”x 10” x 8-7/8”
Weight=25.5 lbs./ea
Finish=Black strained solid oak wood top and base, black textured vinyl over dense fiberboard

Graduate
MSRP=$298/pair
Model: A1036
Frequency Response=55Hz to 21kHz +/-3dB
Impedance=6to8 ohms
Recommended Amplifier Power=10-70 Watts
Sensitivity (2.83 volts @1 meter)=89dB
Crossover Frequency=4.5kHz
Resonance=75Hz +/-5Hz
Harmonic Distortion= <1% above 90Hz @ 1 Watt
Tweeter Dispersion (Variance 30° V or H to 13kHz)= <+/-1dB
Tweeter=1/2” polycarbonate ferrofluid filled hard dome
Woofer=8” high extrusion aluminum coil form
Cabinet Size (HxWxD)=18”x 12-7/8” x 7-1/4”
Weight=18 lbs./ea
Finish=Oiled solid pecan or black oak top and base, black textured vinyl over dense fiberboard


Baby II/Baby III
MSRP=$270/pair
Model: A1075 III, A1058 Black II
Frequency Response=60Hz to 21kHz +/-3dB
Impedance=6to8 ohms
Recommended Amplifier Power=10-50 Watts
Sensitivity (2.83 volts @1 meter)=89dB
Crossover Frequency=4.5kHz
Resonance=79Hz +/-5Hz
Harmonic Distortion= <1.5% above 100Hz @ 1 Watt
Tweeter Dispersion (Variance 30° V or H to 13kHz)= <+/-1dB
Tweeter=1/2” polycarbonate ferrofluid filled hard dome
Woofer=6-1/2” high extrusion aluminum coil form
Cabinet Size (HxWxD)=16-1/2”x 11” x 6-3/16”
Weight=13 lbs./ea
Finish=Solid hackberry or black oak top and base, black textured vinyl over dense fiberboard

Mini Advent, Indoor/Outdoor Mini
MSRP=$230/pair
Model: A1004/A1085 (Outdoor)
Frequency Response=110Hz to 21kHz +/-3dB
Impedance=6to8 ohms
Recommended Amplifier Power=10-40 Watts
Sensitivity (2.83 volts @1 meter)=88dB
Crossover Frequency=4.5kHz
Resonance=85Hz +/-5Hz
Harmonic Distortion= <1.5% above 200Hz @ 1 Watt
Tweeter Dispersion (Variance 30° V or H to 13kHz)= <+/-1dB
Tweeter=1/2” polycarbonate ferrofluid filled hard dome
Woofer=5-1/4” high extrusion aluminum coil form
Cabinet Size (HxWxD)=11” x 6-1/2” x 5-1/2”
Weight=10 lbs./ea
Finish=Mini Advent: Solid pecan top and base, Indoor/Outdoor: black or white top and base.

Subwoofer III for Mini Advent
MSRP=$299/ea
Model: A1070
Frequency Response=40Hz to 180Hz +/-3dB
Impedance=6to8 ohms
Recommended Amplifier Power=10-100 Watts
Sensitivity (2.83 volts @1 meter)=91dB
Woofer=dual 5-1/4” high extrusion aluminum coil form
Cabinet Size (HxWxD)=12-3/4” x 15-1/2” x 8-1/2”
Weight=20 lbs./ea
Finish=Black ash vinyl over dense fiberboard.


Center Channels: Audio Focus / Audio Cinema
MSRP=$149/ea (Focus), $189/ea (Cinema)
Model: A1062 Focus, A1090 Cinema
Frequency Response=80Hz to 20kHz +/-3dB Focus, 60Hz to 20kHz +/-3Db Cinema
Impedance=8 ohms
Recommended Amplifier Power=10-90 Watts Focus, 10-125 Watts Cinema
Sensitivity (2.83 volts @1 meter)=92dB
Tweeter=PPTA high performance Cinema
Woofers=dual 4” dual cone Focus, dual 5-1/4” high extrusion aluminum coil form Cinema
Cabinet Size (HxWxD)=6”x 13” x 6” Focus, 6”x 18” x 6-1/2” Cinema
Weight=6 lbs. Focus / 10 lbs. Cinema
Finish=Black textured vinyl over dense fiberboard Focus, Black ash vinyl over dense fiberboard Cinema

Sub10 (Powered Subwoofer)
MSRP=$499/ea
Continuous Power from 20Hz to 200 Hz < 0.5% THD = 100 Watts
Signal to Noise Ratio= >75dB
Frequency Response=35Hz to 200Hz -3dB
Woofer=10” dual voice coil high extrusion aluminum
Crossover Frequency Range=40Hz to 180 Hz
Crossover Slope=12 dB/octave
Time Off Delay Time=20 Minutes
Input Sensitivity @ 1watt. 50Hz= Line-In 15mV (L & R)
Rumble Filter Response (20 Hz/0dB ref.) = 10Hz-13dB, 15Hz-4dB

Limited Production Run Loudspeakers = New Vision Series 250, 350, 500
I only have reference data on the 250 model.

New Vision 250 (3-Way Bookshelf Model)
MSRP=$550/pair
Frequency Response = 45 Hz-23 kHz +/-3dB
Tweeter Dispersion (Variance 30 deg. V or H to 13kHz
Impedance Normal 6 ohms, Min. 4 ohms
Power Handling, Continuous 100 watts, Peak 400 watts
Sensitivity = 88 dB
Useable Frequency Range: Low=38 Hz - 8 dB, High=23 kHz-3dB
Tweeter=1" ferrofluid filled polymide soft dome
Midrange=5-1/4" Felted and molded graphite
Woofer=5-1/4" High extrusion with aluminum voice coil
Finish=Ultraviolet coated vinyl veneer and dark wood finish
On the rear are easy-access binding posts for connections.
Dimensions=17-3/4" x 10-7/8" x 8-1/4" (H x W x D)
Weight=22 lbs./ea.
 
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