(Sorry if this posted elsewhere, kind of new here)
Thanks for the response and info.
Maybe the way I have them set up, with good tube power and a sweet Pas2 preamp and imo nice oppo 105 source, they work out well.
When I first got them I hooked them up to my Fisher 400 before I did the mod to it and they made my 400 scream. After the mod and after replacing all tubes with the best I could find, even more so.