belgiansound
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Great topic to read through, actually gave me the courage to investigate some brands I never looked at before and my regards are both very in line with previous post, but also going against it quite badly...
overrated = too expensive for the quality
for me it's the +70's marrantz. I own a 1060 which is ok as a preamp, but not worth 3-400 euro. All of them are hugely over priced.
secondly it's expensive speaker cable, just bullshit to pay hundreds or even thousands of euro for some cable, copper is just fine
thirdly it's vintage speakers, pre 70's, like tannoy etc. Foam surrounds are dying, electronics are dying, it's just decaying over time. I like the look of it but they need a lot of work to sound great
'A class' amps. Did not hear the difference, to me it's just a really inefficient amplifier which costs crazy money
underrated
(don't kill me): BOSE 1800 series 1 amp. (and generally, older BOSE gear). It's built without compromise and can be had (reasonably) cheap as no one cares about BOSE due to the audiophile threads (thanks guys
) Cheap to fix as well.
90's yamaha. I bought a mint yamaha 90's system for 100 euro, 3 integrated amps (2 of them with pre out so you can link them), a very nicely built CD player, tuner, excellent casette deck, ... Great sound, all with remote control, all stepless volume control, worked flawlessly (though 20+ yrs old) but gets no credit whatso-ever. Sold the unites mostly seperately and in the end got 250 euro when I sold it on. Can't believe for the same money people are buying some vintage 40+ yr old stuff of mediocre quality (let's face it, for 250 you cannot buy 3 vintage amps, tuner, ... of great quality) which needs a 'recap', 'cleaning potmeter', ..... to work properly
Due to these experiences I'm actually going to check out a yamaha pre amp (C85) this weekend to compare to the 'famous' marantz 1060. Looking forward to hear the difference!
overrated = too expensive for the quality
for me it's the +70's marrantz. I own a 1060 which is ok as a preamp, but not worth 3-400 euro. All of them are hugely over priced.
secondly it's expensive speaker cable, just bullshit to pay hundreds or even thousands of euro for some cable, copper is just fine
thirdly it's vintage speakers, pre 70's, like tannoy etc. Foam surrounds are dying, electronics are dying, it's just decaying over time. I like the look of it but they need a lot of work to sound great
'A class' amps. Did not hear the difference, to me it's just a really inefficient amplifier which costs crazy money
underrated
(don't kill me): BOSE 1800 series 1 amp. (and generally, older BOSE gear). It's built without compromise and can be had (reasonably) cheap as no one cares about BOSE due to the audiophile threads (thanks guys
) Cheap to fix as well.90's yamaha. I bought a mint yamaha 90's system for 100 euro, 3 integrated amps (2 of them with pre out so you can link them), a very nicely built CD player, tuner, excellent casette deck, ... Great sound, all with remote control, all stepless volume control, worked flawlessly (though 20+ yrs old) but gets no credit whatso-ever. Sold the unites mostly seperately and in the end got 250 euro when I sold it on. Can't believe for the same money people are buying some vintage 40+ yr old stuff of mediocre quality (let's face it, for 250 you cannot buy 3 vintage amps, tuner, ... of great quality) which needs a 'recap', 'cleaning potmeter', ..... to work properly
Due to these experiences I'm actually going to check out a yamaha pre amp (C85) this weekend to compare to the 'famous' marantz 1060. Looking forward to hear the difference!
