You have to hear them to believe. For 1/3 the size of the 19s, the 14s deliver 90% of the impact.
Pulled the woofers out of my Altec Lansing Model 14's.......
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You have to hear them to believe. For 1/3 the size of the 19s, the 14s deliver 90% of the impact.
30hz MAGIC
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I'm sure their accurate, but theres just no way a pair of 40oz magnets can deliver enough force to my liking. Those things will likely struggle below 30hz past 100db...
Don't the 19's go for over a thousand $$$????
titanstats
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Well of course they will, most speakers do; the Model 14 is 35-20,000Hz, 95dB 1W/1m, 114dB continuous. They really are killer speakers, and plenty of punch -- remember, you're hitting that 100dB point at about 5W. Try talking in the room when you're using 5-10W power.
30hz MAGIC
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Well of course they will, most speakers do; the Model 14 is 35-20,000Hz, 95dB 1W/1m, 114dB continuous. They really are killer speakers, and plenty of punch -- remember, you're hitting that 100dB point at about 5W. Try talking in the room when you're using 5-10W power.
Yeah, but there's so much hype behind them on this website. I would think for $2000 for VINTAGE audio since everyone says you get better bang for your buck going vintage these things REALLY would be out of this world. Deeeeep, loooow bass is expected for that price in vintage isn't it? And there has just got to be a modern floor speaker set for $2000 that hits the high and mids with precision like them, right???
I COULD BE WRONG IDK...
titanstats
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For $2000, there's nothing out there going to touch a pair of these, IMHO. I think you'll find yourself spending an awful lot of cash before finding something that will give the 14s a beating.
It's not so much that there is hype on here about them -- they've been considered pretty nice speakers since long before there was an internet. Some people consider them one of Altec's best offerings. Give a pair a listen, you will likely be surprised. Only place I'll be going is the Model 19s if I come across a pair, or maybe a pair of nice 604 boxes.
It's not so much that there is hype on here about them -- they've been considered pretty nice speakers since long before there was an internet. Some people consider them one of Altec's best offerings. Give a pair a listen, you will likely be surprised. Only place I'll be going is the Model 19s if I come across a pair, or maybe a pair of nice 604 boxes.
Vincentz
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You won't be disappointed. I just traded up to 19's from my 14's and there is definitely a difference in sound. But for the 14's size and price, you really can't go wrong. If you can find them for a good price. The 14's can really sing, especially when you push them. I used solid state and tube equipment. I found my tube amp to be a bit more smoother. I thought that I might miss the 14's when I switched to the 19's because the 14's sounded that good. However, the 19's have won my heart over.
bowtie427ss
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The woofer, yes.
The "difference" is in the sensitivity. The model 19 woofer is much more sensitive than the woofer in the 14.
Let's put it a different way. For any given acoustic output level, the model 14 woofer will require 3 to 4 times as much power to produce it. The model 14's woofer needs 200 watts to do the same job that the 19's woofer does with 50 watts.
The 416-8B woofer of the model 19 is rated for 75 watts continuous, here's the spec sheet: http://www.lansingheritage.org/html/altec/specs/components/416-8b.htm
SPEC2man
Are we there yet?
The 19's are on my list but very hard to find at least in the Pacific Northwest. I have seen a couple pair come up but it's always when I'm broke. The 14's came up for a song ($450 I think ) and I had the woofs worked over. I'll never get my money out of them, so I decided to work on the crossovers and keep em. Deoxit didn't seem to help the pots much, I really need to tear them apart. I have seen threads on a Model 14 crossover rebuild. Maybe replace the pots if they are really dead and new caps while bypassing the "protection circuit" I emailed "Great Plains Audio" but the 14 is not really on the "A" list and I would have to bastardize a different crossover to replace whats in there. He must be a busy guy, because I couldn't get him to reply to my request on pricing, so I gave up. I checked eBay but was too scared to dive in. I think I'll just try it myself. The speakers themselves are in really great shape.
bowtie427ss
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GPA is a cottage industry/business. Simply put, to make answering email inquiries a priority would be cost destructive/prohibitive to a small operation like theirs.
More or less common knowledge among most Altec enthusiasts is the fact that a short, sweet, to the point phone call to them generally yields solid answers to most inquiries.
The 14s don't struggle. At anything. They are Very efficient and can handle anything you throw at them.
bowtie427ss
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Agreed! :thmbsp:
Even the 15's woofer does pretty well, and it has a smaller, less powerful, less robust motor.
30hz MAGIC
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20hz at 150db? You said anything...
Pretty sure efficiency doesn't make the woofer handle more power. Just makes them easier for the amp to handle.
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Love my model 14's. My wife will probably drop them in the grave with me and smile a little.
30hz MAGIC
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I wonder if these could conquer the 19's within their price point.http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-E...8&qid=1403195406&sr=8-1&keywords=martin+logan
Maybe??? They're priced about the same for a pair but the Martin Logan's come brand new!
Maybe??? They're priced about the same for a pair but the Martin Logan's come brand new!
30hz MAGIC
Creator of earthquakes!
Looks like its cone area vs excursion. If the Altec 515 woofer is a lot like the 19 woofer then the excursion of the 19 peaks at .80 inches.
So if the 8" "high excursion" woofer in the Martin's can push past 1.8 inches x its 8-inch cone area it will move enough air to catch up to the 19's woofer.
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