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Schiit Modi Multibit

Discussion in 'DACs' started by MikE, Jul 26, 2016.

  1. gvl

    gvl Super Member

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    Well, with all these sentiments to the MMB I keep wondering if there is some variation across Schiit units that make them sound differently and I just had a dud in my hands. I kind of doubt it, but who knows...
     

     

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  2. Vegemite

    Vegemite New Member

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    Yea does anyone have any tips for cleaning up the USB output from the laptop e.g. drivers/services/external power supplies? It's just a Windows 10 laptop, about 2 years old w/ USB 3 etc.

    I'll give the ASIO thing a go when I get home.

    Another thing - I noticed a lot of people complaining about the device not being recognized when trying to install the Schiit drivers - Mine did the same. Try this - It was remedied, for me, by removing the wall power supply to the Multibit, and only connecting the USB cable to install the drivers. For whatever reason (separate power sections inside the modi i imagine) the drivers would crash and say the device could not be found with both the USB cable and the wall wart power supply plugged in. After the drivers installed successfully, reboot and connect the auxiliary power supply to the Modi.

    I had no problems connecting the unit and the Windows drivers recognizing the unit straight away.
     
  3. gvl

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    I had to install an earlier driver which had no problem recognizing the C-Media interface, the latest would say device not detected and no-go, same thing happened on 3 PCs. Didn't try the unplug trick. I had no popping sounds, if you're using the latest driver perhaps try uninstalling it and use the earlier driver and see if it cures them?
     
  4. Jim Creek

    Jim Creek Jazz, Wine, Electronics

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    There is a very kewl way to run your DAC from your laptop, cell phone, ipad, etc. with no USB cable.

    You need a wireless network.
    You need a tiny computer called a Raspberry Pi. It's about the size of a pack of cigarettes. ($75)
    You need some free software called RuneAudio.
    You need an external hard drive with all your music files.

    It works flawlessly with the MMB. The RuneAudio interface is super kewl. You can load music, control volume, skip around, from anywhere in the house with your cell, ipad, laptop.

    You guys should look into it.
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  5. stuck limo

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    Are there other people reporting an up-front, digital sound besides us?
     
  6. gvl

    gvl Super Member

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    Nope, or very few and not on this forum. I wouldn't necessarily describe the sound as digital as some might think of digital sound that you get from cheap CD players, no, it was nothing like that. But it was very direct and uncompromising.
     

     

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  7. stuck limo

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    It's definitely not a "cheap digital" sound. It's just not a smooth sound. It sounds expensive regardless.
     
  8. runnin'

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    As with all dacs or other audio components, all the other parts in the audio chain will make up the end result.
     
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  9. judsonw

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    Thanks for the review as that system chain is what my exact set up would be. Of course, I will likely still try for myself, but it is good to read your experiences with it.
     
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  10. Alobar

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    Not unpopular with me, everyone is going to have different opinions due to a whole plethora of reasons. I respect your opinion on the Modi. What I haven't cared about in this thread is the way the brand name has been kicked around like it should be a real consideration, or that the Modi mb should somehow rival dac's that list for double its price.
     
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  11. Alobar

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    I Had to open up the buffer a bit withJRiver running on my Rpi3 to prevent dropped out tracks about 10 seconds in to them, but now works perfectly and dead silent. Before switching to the Raspberry I ran the Modi mb on windows and had all sorts of issues which the Schiit wyrd mostly took care of. Now I don't use the wyrd any longer. The Rpi3 with JRiver and the Modi mb has been a winner for me.
     

     

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  12. Alobar

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    I Have had interest in rune for a while now but was under the impression that it is subscription based which I tend to shy away from. Will roon stream Tidal and stored music seemlessly on the Rpi3? That would be a reason to have it IMO
     
  13. invaderzim

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    The Modi 2 Uber sounded pretty much the same as the built in DAC in my Squeezebox Touch.

    The Modi Multibit, to me, was a bit harsh but one person's harsh is another person's detailed. My system was already a little too crisp sounding so for me it wasn't a good thing.

    An excellent reason why any recommendation for or against the way any piece of equipment sounds has to be taken with yet another grain of salt.

    I've found small tubes that were raved about, to be too soft sounding when I first tried them but then later when I paired them with a power tube that was just a bit harsh the combination was perfect.
     
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  14. Jim Creek

    Jim Creek Jazz, Wine, Electronics

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    RuneAudio is completely free, no subscription.

    I have a Pi3. Rune streams all my stored music and radio stations.

    Tidal does music videos, right? I am not familiar with Tidal so I can't tell you if it works with Rune or not. I doubt it though.

    BTW: I like to see a diversity of opinions on equipment like the Modi MB. Equipment Brand Fan Boys are boring.
     
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  15. Vegemite

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    Found the problem with my modi multibit. Pops and clicks stopped completely by disabling devices one at a time to discover it was the laptops internal intel hd graphics. The USB hub doing all the ports on the laptop shared the same IRQ as the graphics. Now clear sound and crap , slow display which I assume is the CPU rendering the graphics. This I can live with as I'm all about the audio anyway. But of a shame it's such an extreme solution.
     
  16. judsonw

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    Out of curiosity, what brand and model of laptop are you using?
     

     

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  17. gvl

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    Is there way to assign a different IRQ to the graphics? Could this be just noise on the USB lines when the graphics is in a particular mode? Have you tried a hub between the laptop and the DAC and/or using another USB port on the laptop?
     
  18. Alobar

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    Noise on the USB was a major problem with my win 10 machine, a desktop HP. I bought the Schiit Wyrd filter which helped considerably but still not the final solution which for me meant going with the Raspberry pi 3.
     
  19. gvl

    gvl Super Member

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    Modi multibit is known for its lesser USB interface. The Eitr sounds like a solution to all USB issues, should stack nicely with the Modi too.
     
  20. Condorsat

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    Now that's interesting ... missed the introduction of that one.
     
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