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SX-950 Relay Bypassed and Burnt Resistors

Discussion in 'Pioneer Audio' started by Pageplayer, Jul 12, 2018.

  1. Pageplayer

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    are the input differential pairs q1 q3 q2 q4 ?
     

     

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  2. petehall347

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    yes the 992 you put in there
     
  3. Pageplayer

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    Yes.. I went through and found matching pairs by recording hFE with component checker. then retested again.
     
  4. petehall347

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    am wondering if offsets will come down some when at operating temps. and on full mains power .
     
  5. petehall347

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    are the trim pots all one way to get it to the lowest you can ? they should reside somewhere near centre positions when set to 0v . turning one way offsets go positive and other way negative .
     
  6. Pageplayer

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    I understand what you're saying.
    To be clear, I installed Bourns 652-3296W-1-103LF 10K ohm 25 turn pots in VR1 and VR2 positions.
    turning all the way counter clockwise gets DC offset down to +.07v.
    turning about 25+ turns clockwise raises the reading +.12v
     

     

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  7. petehall347

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    both channels the same ? i think you replied already on that but cant remember right now .
     
  8. Pageplayer

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    yes.. both are the same
    I'm looking thru the Power Amp "again" and making sure everything was installed correctly
     
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    something common to both then .
     
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    looking at the schematic could you get all marked voltages ? pin 7 at the top ..amp board awh-050
     
  11. Pageplayer

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    Across the top of Amp board..
    Pin 31 -50.0v
    Pin 36 +50.1v
    Pin 41 -50.2v
    Pin 46 +50.3
     

     

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  12. petehall347

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    14 and 19 amp board ?
     
  13. Pageplayer

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    Pin 14= 50.4v
    Pin 19= 34.5v

    I also was checking transistor legs that have call outs on schematic and they're very close.
     
  14. petehall347

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    meant 4 not 14 but never mind ..
     
  15. petehall347

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    pin 2 -51.5v ..then d1 cathode 4v
     
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    Pin 2 -54.6v
    D1 cathode -4.45v

    Pin 4 34.4v
     

     

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  17. Pageplayer

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    Since I wasn't seeing any way out of whack voltages other than the DC offset being weird, I went ahead and added the remaining output transistors to the power amp.
    No issues with DBT power up as I cycled thru 60w, 75w and 100w bulbs, then full mains.
    I let the unit warm up for 20 minutes, monitored and set bias to about 18mV..
    Transistors mounted to heat sinks on power supply do get pretty warm, but everything else stays cool.

    And DC offset still won't zero or go below .05v
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2018

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