The Hobbitt

Urchinn said:
Also, I'm predicting that the money-lovin' studios will demand yet another Tolkien film after the Hobbit trilogy is over. I'm guessing the story of Beren and Luthien is already being discussed for a future project...
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The power of money being what it is, I agree that another movie or set of them will be ATTEMPTED to be made. They will not however, barring a sale of screenplay rights by the Tolkien family, be gleaned from the Silmarillion or any other half finished Tolkien book. The Tolkien family sold the screenplay rights to the Hobbit and the LOTR decades ago. They bounced around from studio to studio until New Line Cinema picked them up and ran with them. There have been several earlier comments in this thread about how extra material in the Hobbit was coming from the appendices and the Silmarillion. Only half true. Nothing is coming from the Silmarillion. The Tolkien estate, being the litigious bunch that they are, would have put a legal stop to it a long time ago.
 
One would think that the family would want Tolkien's vision to reach the masses one way or another. :scratch2:

cubdog
 
Dave1027 said:
I heard a review on the radio the other morning. The guy said The Hobbit was one Jar-jar Binx away from being the next Phantom Menace.
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Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, Harry Potter...
One orphaned adolescent male lead, pairs up with two best friends to sucessfully defeat an evil overlord, with a slightly older male hero of dubious origin to provide help when things look really black, and an old Wizard to offer fatherly guidance. And some Ewoks/dwarves/elves to facillitate incidental plan execution, all in a mystical place that is reminiscent of medieval Europe in architecture and customs.

Switch some genders and that's The Wizard of Oz too.
 
steerpike2 said:
Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, Harry Potter...
One orphaned adolescent male lead, pairs up with two best friends to sucessfully defeat an evil overlord, with a slightly older male hero of dubious origin to provide help when things look really black, and an old Wizard to offer fatherly guidance. And some Ewoks/dwarves/elves to facillitate incidental plan execution, all in a mystical place that is reminiscent of medieval Europe in architecture and customs.

Switch some genders and that's The Wizard of Oz too.
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If you really want to pair up that sort of thing, Look up something called "The heroes journey". It basically summerizes 90% of fiction, and ruined everything for me after I learned about it in middle school:scratch2:
 
I saw it with my (home from college) daughter. 2D , digital version. We sat far back in the theater, and it was still dazzling/overwhelming at times. The scenes when Smaug almost wipes out the dwarves seemed to generate heat! We both enjoyed it, but agreed that we would wait for the DVD to see it again. ( Anyone know if it will be released in standard DVD?)
 
Saw it in 3D IMAX

some of the best 3D I've seen and the movie it's self was great. Unlike some who thought it started out slow I took it as the story unfolding like a book,laying the ground work for what was to follow. I loved the Brown Wizard,what an off beat character and hope he shows up in the next installment. :smoke: My favorite character for me is Gandolf the Gray which I guess is why I didn't mind the begining of the movie. If anyone can clarify something for me the part where Gandolf talks to butterfly and sends him off did he go to The Brown Wizard whom"talks to the animals" and the Brown Wizard sent the Eagles? Thanks. Anyway plenty of action in this and can't wait for the next one.
 
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qdrone said:
If anyone can clarify something for me the part where Gandolf talks to butterfly and sends him off did he go to The Brown Wizard whom"talks to the animals" and the Brown Wizard sent the birds? Thanks. Anyway plenty of action in this and can't wait for the next one.
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In the books there is no mention of a moth or butterfly at all, although Gandalf and Co. are rescued by the eagles. In The Fellowship of the Ring, Gandalf talks to a moth or butterfly (again, not in the book) to arrange his escape with help from an eagle from Sauraman at Orthanc. I think it was just a way of connecting the two movies.
 
I almost saw The Hobbit on Weds! Went out to scrape the ice off my windshield, warmed up my truck and drove across town to see the 10:00 pm showing. When I got to the window to buy a ticket it turns out all they had playing was the 3D version.:thumbsdn: So I said "thanks anyway" and left.
 
Rob Babcock said:
I almost saw The Hobbit on Weds! Went out to scrape the ice off my windshield, warmed up my truck and drove across town to see the 10:00 pm showing. When I got to the window to buy a ticket it turns out all they had playing was the 3D version.:thumbsdn: So I said "thanks anyway" and left.
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3D version was great! Perhaps you were confusing it with the High Res 3D. That's the one people are having issues with.
 
The wife and I went to see the 2D version last night. From the introduction segway with old Bilbo and Frodo talking about "the party", right through to the dragon's eye, we thoroughly enjoyed the movie.

Dwarves are much more fun than I remembered from the book, but I read it in 1977 and my memories of the book are rather foggy.

I was awestruck at the natural shots of the New Zealand landscape. What a visual treat, truly spectacular.

I only have two issues..

1. I wish the Pale Orc didn't look so fake. I just could not get past the suspension of belief with that character. CGI has come along way but is still lacking in some respects.

2. I could do without the moving Point Of View in the mountains passes and inside the Goblin Kingdom. I'm not much of a fan of camera movement for the most part.

Surprisingly, most people complain about the pacing and the length of the movie, but both myself and my wife wanted the movie to continue. We felt the time flew by and wanted more.

I don't suppose I could ask much more from a movie than to be thoroughly entertained, and that we were.
 
I saw the standard version. My favorite part was the introduction. Love the Hobbit houses and the party at Bilbo's.
 
We saw the 3D version over the weekend. Awesome movie. I loved it better than the Lord of the Rings movies. :thmbsp: Three hours goes quick. Can't wait for the next installment.
 
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Dave1027 said:
We saw the 3D version over the weekend. Awesome movie. I loved it better than the Lord of the Rings movies. :thmbsp: Three hours goes quick. Can't wait for the next installment.
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Maybe it went quickly because the film is only about 2:15 long.
 
It's listed as 2 hrs 46 mins

If you are there to just enjoy the movie the time goes by pretty quickly. If you are there to analyse it... Oh well.
 
Just saw the 48 fps Real 3D version today and was pretty much blown away. The Last 3D flick I saw was some 1969 soft core porn called "The Stewardesses", and FWIW, 3D has got a lot better. I'm not sure what the concerns are, but it certainly was a very interesting and enjoyable experience. It will be interesting to see how this fares on HD 2D once it hits cable.

Pretty much amazed at the epic scale and grandeur of the entire production. The beginning with the Dwarf world, the underground Goblin land, Rivendell, all were spectacular. Having not read, or remember reading the novel, this is all new to me.

Smaug should be awesome...
 
I never read the books. I did see the Lord of the Rings trilogy and did enjoy it.

The Hobbit in 3D was one the most visually mesmerizing movies I've ever seen. Story was ok, but as a whole it was great fun!
 
saw it in (3d & 48fps & baby Imax) and just regular.

The worst thing I can say about the 48fps is that at times it has the smoothness thing going on a bit too much. Reminded me of those TV's that make you feel like you are on the set of the movie but not IN the movie, but, there were times that worked really well, and as the movie progressed I felt like director was getting, like now I know what I want it to look like.

The scene at night around the fire in Bilbo's house was awesome felt like I was in the room with them sharing that moment.

The detail of being able to look into the film and seeing all the way back in some of the scenes was amazing.

The regular version was good, and didn't show some of the shortcomings of the sets, and Bilbos house took on a more "romanticized" look. It let more of the atmosphere of the place come thru rather than the reality of the home, that's the best I can describe it for now.

Oh the wolves that the bad guys rode looked awesome in 48fps.

I liked the film, really liked Bilbo, I think the dynamic of this film vs the other three so far is that everyone in the first three were trying to keep the group together and the main threat was pretty evident. In this it's still muddling around, and it wasn't as yet a close knit group.

Mark
 
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