The Official H/K Citation Owners Thread

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Harman/Kardon Citation XI Specifications:

Power Output: 150 watts per channel into 8Ω (stereo)

Frequency Response: 0.1Hz to 180kHz

Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.01%

Dampening Factor: 130

Input Sensitivity: 1V

Signal to Noise Ratio: 118dB

Speaker Load Impedance: 4Ω (Minimum)

Dimensions: 440 x 194 x 428mm - 17.32 inches X 7.64 inches X 16.85 inches

Weight: 25kg - 55lbs 1.85oz

Year: 1983

 

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Harman/Kardon Citation XX Specifications:

Power Output: 250 watts per channel into 8Ω (stereo)

Frequency Response: 0.1Hz to 220kHz

Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.05%

Dampening Factor: 250

Input Sensitivity: 1V

Signal to Noise Ratio: 105dB

Speaker Load Impedance: 4Ω (Minimum)

Dimensions: 482 x 194 x 555mm - 18.98 inches X 7.64 inches X 21.85 inches

Weight: 42kg - 92lbs 9.51oz

Year: 1983

 

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Glossary

Power Output:
The maximum power input allowed to flow through the equipment.

Frequency Response:
The effectiveness with which a circuit, device, or system processes and transmits signals fed into it, as a function of the signal frequency.

Total Harmonic Distortion:
A measurement of the harmonic distortion present and is defined as the ratio of the sum of the powers of all harmonic components to the power of the fundamental frequency.

Damping Factor:
The ratio of the load impedance (loudspeaker plus wire resistance) to the amplifier internal output impedance. This basically indicates the amplifier’s ability to control overshoot of the loudspeaker, i.e., to stop the cone from moving. It is most evident at frequencies below 150 Hz or so where the size and weight of the cones become significant. A system where the damping factor of the entire loudspeaker/wire/amplifier circuit is very low will exhibit poor definition in the low frequency range.

Input Sensitivity:
The minimum magnitude of input signal required to produce a specified output signal having a specified signal-to-noise ratio, or other specified criteria.

Signal to Noise Ratio:
A measure used in science and engineering that compares the level of a desired signal to the level of background noise. It is defined as the ratio of signal power to the noise power, often expressed in decibels. A ratio higher than 1:1 (greater than 0 dB) indicates more signal than noise.

 

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Citation 22 Spec Update.

Power Output: 200 watts per channel into 8Ω (stereo)

Frequency Response: 20Hz to 20kHz

Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.08%

Damping Factor: 100

Input Sensitivity: 1V

Signal to Noise Ratio: 90dB

Dimensions: 443 x 155 x 398mm (17.44 inches X 6.10 inches X 15.67 inches)

Weight: 20.5kg (45lbs 3.12oz)

These specs above absolutely suck but they are incorrect according to the OM. Should be as follows:

Power Output:
200 wpc/20-20k/<0.08/8Ω
200wpc/20-20k/<0.08/4Ω
400wpcbridged mono/20-20k/<0.12/8Ω

Frequency Response: 0.1Hz-250kHz,

Power Bandwidth <10Hz-100kHz

Total Harmonic Distortion: see power output

Damping Factor: 120 8Ω

Input Sensitivity: 1.0V/22kΩ

Signal to Noise Ratio: 100/123 A wtd


Seems you should edit all your posts and put the model number in the thread instead of just the title of the post. I used the quote function and it did not pick up that this is about the Cit 22.

Your glossary is too generic. Power Output is the rated power output of the amplifier as specified by whatever source you found with that information. Correctly for any stereo amp produced after Nov 1974 it should include the RMS WPC, specify if both channels are driven, the frequency response limits of that power, the THD at that power level and the impedance of the load. Hence my ###wpc/##Hz-###kHz/0.##(%THD)/#Ω.

Frequency response is the frequency response of the power. I added the overall frequency response of the Cit 22 which is very wide band and the power bandwidth (I'll let you find out that one and respond when it is disclosed).

Correctly the spec is Damping Factor. No problem there, easy mistake.

We can work on trailing throttle oversteer description next if anyone cares.

 

[motoservizio]

Late to the party

Here's mine. Cit 22, 23, 25, Harman T60c tt, Harman model 60 speakers, Harman
DVD 48, not in pic, Schiit Bifrost Uber.

 

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Love your setup!! Tell me more about your speakers, and tell us your impressions of your system, the sound quality, etc.

PM sent.

 

[motoservizio]

Floyd Toole designed these speakers, and they were sold in the early 90's.
These were the top of the range at about $3200. They were to compete with Vandersteen 3, Thiel 3.6. But they weren't very popular. I picked them up for $400. a year ago. I would be very interested to hear these others. But all I can compere them to is Ohm Walsh 4's. which come up short in bass extension, and soundstage based on there omni directional design.
The last thing they need is 200 watts. I thought I would end up with much harder speakers to drive.

Design: 3 way tuned port, Frequency Response: 30Hz-20kHz(2db), Sensitivity: 90db/1m/2.83VRMS, Min. Power: 10 watts, Dynamic Power Handling: 200 at 10% clipping, Nominal Impedance: 6 ohms, Low Freq. Drivers: Twin 200mm graphite/polyprolylene cone, urethane suspension. 32mm Hi-temp voice coil on aluminum former. 450 gm encapsulated magnet. Mid Freq Driver: 76mm polymer impregnated dome. Special 240gm magnet. 76mm Hi-temp voice coil. Ultra wide dispersion design. High Freq Driver: 19mm aluminum alloy dome. Aluminum former, less than 3g moving mass. Ferofluid cooled Polymer suspension. Crossover:: 500Hz Linkwitz-Riley/2.8kHz Linkwitz-Riley. Dimensions: 50"/18.5"/11.5"(H/W/D). Shipping Wt. 100lbs.each.

 

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Damn!!! One hundred pounds a piece. You better make sure your back is in good condition before you start lugging them puppies.

Thank God for my bookshelf speakers at 18lbs each.

 

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Harman/Kardon Citation 1 Specifications:

Frequency Response: 5Hz to 80kHz

Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.05%

Input Sensitivity: 2.5mV (MM), 100mV (ceramic), 200mV (line)

Signal to Noise Ratio: 85dB (line)

Output: 300mV (line), 2V (Pre out)

Valve Complement: 9 x ECC83/12AX7, 5 x ECC81/12AT7

Dimensions: 14-7/8 x 12-1/4 x 6 inches

Weight: 23lbs

Finish: Charcoal Brown and Gold

Accessories: Optional Walnut Enclosure

 

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Harman/Kardon Citation 11 Specifications

TBD

 

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Harman/Kardon Citation 17 Specifications:

Frequency Response: 5Hz to 125kHz

Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.001%

Input Sensitivity: 2.8mV (MM), 200mV (line)

Signal to Noise Ratio: 80dB (MM), 92dB (line)

Output: 2V (Pre out)

Dimensions: 406 x 120 x 305mm - 15.98 inches X 4.72 inches X 12.01 inches

Weight: 9kg - 19lbs 13.46 oz

Finish: Silver Front Panel

Year: 1975

 

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Harman/Kardon Citation 17S Specifications:

Frequency Response: 5Hz to 125kHz

Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.001%

Input Sensitivity: 2.8mV (MM), 200mV (line)

Signal to Noise Ratio: 80dB (MM), 92dB (line)

Output: 2V (Pre out)

Dimensions: 406 x 120 x 305mm - 15.98 inches X 4.72 inches X 12.01 inches

Weight: 9kg - 19lbs 13.46oz

Finish: Black Front Panel

Year: 1975

 

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Harman/Kardon Citation 21 Specifications:

Frequency Response: 20Hz to 20kHz

Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.005%

Input Sensitivity: 0.125mV (MC), 2.2mV (MM), 130mV (line)

Signal to Noise Ratio: 73dB (MC), 78dB (MM), 84dB (line)

Channel Separation: 55dB (MM), 54dB (MC), 56dB (line)

Dimensions: 440 x 90 x 345mm - 17.32 inches X 3.54 inches X 13.58 inches

 

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Harman/Kardon Citation 25 Specifications:

Frequency Response: 20Hz to 20kHz

Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.005%

Input Sensitivity: 0.125mV (MC), 2.2mV (MM), 130mV (line)

Signal to Noise Ratio: 73dB (MC), 78dB (MM), 84dB (line)

Channel Separation: 55dB (MM), 54dB (MC), 54dB (line)

Dimensions: 443 x 85 x 371mm - 17.44 inches X 3.35 inches X14.61 inches

Weight: 9.09kg - 20lbs 0.64oz

 

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Harman/Kardon Citation 7 Specifications:

TBD

 

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Harman/Kardon Citation XII Specifications:

Frequency Response: 0.1Hz to 300kHz

Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.006%

Input Sensitivity: 0.1mV (MC), 1.6mV (MM), 100mV (line)

Signal to Noise Ratio: 80dB (MC), 84dB (MM), 100dB (line)

Output: 1V (Pre out), 5V (Pre out Max)

Dimensions: 440 x 151 x 415mm - 17.32 inches X 5.94 inches X 16.34 inches

Weight: 11.5kg - 25lbs 5.65oz

Year: 1983

 

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Harman/Kardon Citation XXP Specifications:

Frequency Response: 0.1Hz to 300kHz

Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.005%

Input Sensitivity: 2mV (MM), 100mV (line)

Signal to Noise Ratio: 84dB (MM), 100dB (line)

Output: 1V (Pre out), 5V (Pre out Max)

Dimensions: 481 x 120 x 408mm - 18.94 inches X 4.72 inches X 16.06 inches

Weight: 15kg - 33lbs 1.11oz

Year: 1983

 

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Harman/Kardon Citation Receiver:

Tuning Range: FM, MW

Power Output: 85 watts per channel into 8Ω (stereo)

Frequency Response: 4Hz to 100kHz

Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.15%

Damping Factor: 50

Input Sensitivity: 2.6mV (MM), 125mV (line)

Signal to Noise Ratio: 70dB (MM), 73dB (line)

Dimensions: 502 x 145 x 438mm - 19.76 inches X 5.71 inches X 17.24 inches

Weight: 26.6kg - 58lbs 10.30oz

Year: 1977

 

[hjames]

Got a Harman Kardon Citation Eleven preamp from rogerfederer at the last MidAtlantic party - relayed by good friend Wilfredo ...

Anyway - Its sat in a corner of my livng room waiting for me to check it out, so while I waited for the FIOS guy to come fix a ripped out fiber drop to the house, I hooked the preamp up with a Carver PM-175 I gt in a deal last winter - and I was very impressed. What a nice combo! Tried them feeding lossless files from an Airport Express to the Von Schweikert VR-4s, then tried to the vandersteen 3As ...

Nice Nice sound!

 

[SFaudio]

Well, the official HK Citation Owners thread seen to still not have a lot of followers, looks like it's been a year since anyone posted.
I now own a nice Citation setup, from the original owner (deceased).
It needs a cleanup, and listening to them I think the time is coming to recap it all. The setup came with a set of JBL L200's, which certainly need a recap as well as a refinish, some woodwork - those cheap bases - and new grilles. They currently have the screen-as-in-screen-door grilles on them.
Does anyone here have a recommendation for a service to re-cap the amps? I can do basic stuff, but this would be a big job and I'd rather have it done right than have it sit on my workbench forever while I figured it out; I'd rather have a qualified pro work on such nice gear. I live in the Twin Cities, it'd be nice to find someone local.
Here's some pics.