The Official H/K Citation Owners Thread

Discussion in 'Solid State' started by 4Play, May 5, 2015.

  1. gslikker

    gslikker Super Member

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    Ok, I assumed it was from the amp outputs.
     

     

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  2. Ulysse

    Ulysse New Member

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    Newbie here... saw a citation 21 for sale in my area. How good is the phono part of this preamp? Worth 180?
    There is another Nikko beta 30 for 130. Is citation a better choice? Thanks
     
  3. fred soop

    fred soop Super Member

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    Citation 21 phono preamp circuit design is excellent as is the rest of the unit. Weak point is use of electrolytic capacitors that should have higher voltage ratings. I had an intermittent problem and by the time I could swap cables, swap inputs, or do anything else, it corrected itself. Having already replaced a couple of failed electrolytics in a Citation 24 and a CD 491 tape deck, and discovering that some caps were being run at or even slightly over their rated voltage, I recapped the entire unit. The time penalty is opening it up to get access to both sides of the main circuit board, so no point in stopping at one or two caps. Have had no problems since.
     
  4. Ulysse

    Ulysse New Member

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    Thanks for sharing your experience...

    Did you recap with electrolytic or film capacitors? How many are we talking about? It could be expensive if using high value film capacitors.


     
  5. fred soop

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    Recapped with electrolytics except values under 1 µF were replaced with film. The total was about 50 caps at a total cost of maybe $30. I did not replace the 2 main power supply caps or any in the moving coil section. There would not be room to replace with high value film.
     
  6. Roadrash

    Roadrash AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    So I just got my Citation 16 back from being seviced and having the driver boards re-capped, and it's been rotated back into the living room system while the L-09Ms are being gone through. I had replaced the big filter caps with 22,000uf 100v United Chemicon caps before I sent it out, so those remained in place. It sounds magnificent! It doesn't have the brute power of the Kenwoods, but it does have an exceptionally clean, fast, detailed sound that is very satisfying. Tomorrow I'm going to move the Allisons out, and move the Altecs back into the living room along with the Kenwood C2 because they work very nicely with the big Citation. I sure am glad to have it back home!
     
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  7. Supercool!

    Supercool! AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    Hoping to jump in here...albeit a tad late...Just picked up a HK Citation 12 for a fair price (this unit is a great bargain at market price) and it sounds great even before the spa treatment its about to get. Got it from a fellow AKer here who turned out to be the real deal in terms of representing the unit's condition...which is not always the case. Nice low end...slightly grainy top...but w/ recap we'll fix that... Tried to get a Citation II redone by a restorer (not McShane) but he was not interested anymore and mostly touted his own amps and preamps.. Purchased a Levinson 532H for my Von Schweikert VR4JRs and never looked back...notably now owned by Harmon International...

    Just a word of advice on buying used here and elsewhere...YMMV...if you see fingerprints or smudges in the photos...pass, pass, pass...it speaks volumes..
     
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  8. BillWojo

    BillWojo AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    Only HK Citation gear that I have is in my rack, a Citation 18 tuner. She is a beauty both on the outside and inside as well. It's build quality is over the top.

    BillWojo
     
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  9. Roadrash

    Roadrash AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    You have to love the way the Citation gear of that era was built. The 16 looks like a piece of Military equipment inside.
     
  10. daveg3588

    daveg3588 Toy addict Subscriber

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    Need some help from you Gentlemen, I posted my Citation V in dollars and sense, as to its current value
     
  11. Ohighway

    Ohighway Wannabe Minimalist Subscriber

    Got a few pieces sitting around here. A couple Cit 1, a Cit 2, a Cit 3, several Cit 4..... I think that covers it.

    Ha, the only piece I'm missing...... a Cit 5.
     

     

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  12. Lowstring

    Lowstring AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    My entry is a Citation 12 amp and a companion Citation 17 preamp, both bone stock.
     
  13. Yuaaaaaaaaan

    Yuaaaaaaaaan AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    I recently acquired a Citation 16 but I think it needs restoration before put in use.
     
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  14. Roadrash

    Roadrash AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    It's well worth it, the 16 is a great amp!
     

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