Cleaning Under The Hood

BKville

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What are the steps for cleaning the inside of a receiver... I have read bits and pieces here and there.. But I really don't know the "Do's and Do Not's"... And I rather not screw anything up..

Any help would be very appreciated...

Well.. I got my Sony STR-V35 receiver opened up this afternoon.. And sure enough a fuse was blown, the only fuse we saw anyway... So I thought since there is a layer of dust we'd give it a little cleaning first... Probably it'll still blow a new fuse... At least we'll get some practice in on cleaning... Gotta start somewhere right...



Thanks, Brent
 
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DO unplug the unit ( don't laugh I've seen dummies not unplug it)
DO use a quality electronic cleaner( Caig's DE-Oxit or MG chemicals Nutrol are the only 2 I'd recommend)
DON"T ever use WD-40
DON"T spray the tuning capacitor
DO turn the pots after spraying to work the cleaner around
DO give the unit 24hrs or so to dry completely before plugging back in
DO check the DC offset and adjust bias if able/necessary

DO blow out the dust before cleaning pots etc.. I use a can of compressed air myself


I'm sure others can chime in here

Mike
 
In addition, I use a variety of small brushes with the canned air to help off the more stubborn dust and dirt.

I also use a cotton rag dampened with windex/fantastic etc to wipe off the bigger more accessible parts, like the bell covers on transformers and big round caps. And Q-tips can be used to clean up board stains.

Just take your time and be careful.
 
Rookies probably should avoid the WD-40, but it works wonders for dirty chassis components if used carefully.

The IPA does pretty decent too, but is best used if you have access to a compressor and air nozzle to blast the wet crud out.
 
A trip or so ago to Atlanta I saw a feela demo-ing a little hand held vac in Home Depot. Had her get me one and I picked up last trip. A TUBOVAC ..... Small, with a ton of little gizmos to add. A 3 ft or so flexable hose, extensions, a key board / computer extension with a small brush on the end and blower ends (3 ea.). You can plug the hose in the suction end and you got a little vac.... Plug the hose in the discharge end and you have a niffty little blower with a suprising amount of air flow and velocity. You have 2 or 3 different size blower extension to fit. Tried it out last night and it does a remarkably good job of blowing out the dust and junk... It is worth a look for folks that do not want to fork out $$$$$$$ for a compressor, or to buy $5 and $6 cans of air...
 
here is a pic of the little guy and all the stuff. Guess that the daughter got it at Home depot... The hose has the small nozzle on...
 
Originally posted by ProAc_Fan
DO unplug the unit ( don't laugh I've seen dummies not unplug it)
DO use a quality electronic cleaner( Caig's DE-Oxit or MG chemicals Nutrol are the only 2 I'd recommend)
DON"T ever use WD-40
DON"T spray the tuning capacitor
DO turn the pots after spraying to work the cleaner around
DO give the unit 24hrs or so to dry completely before plugging back in
DO check the DC offset and adjust bias if able/necessary

DO blow out the dust before cleaning pots etc.. I use a can of compressed air myself

Mike...

I have some De-Oxit but where can I find the MG chemicals Nutrol..

What happens if you spray the tuning capaotor..

Do you know where the term "pots" came from...

About how long does a can of compressed air last.. On the average...


Thanks again, Brent
 
Originally posted by Andyman
In addition, I use a variety of small brushes with the canned air to help off the more stubborn dust and dirt.


Andyman...

What kind of brushes do you use..

I was thinking maybe smaller paint brushes.. Soft but then again a bit firm..


Thanks again, Brent
 
Originally posted by BKville
Mike...

I have some De-Oxit but where can I find the MG chemicals Nutrol..

What happens if you spray the tuning capaotor..

Do you know where the term "pots" came from...

About how long does a can of compressed air last.. On the average...


Thanks again, Brent

The tuning capacitor uses the "air" space between the fixed and moving plates to change the capacitance - hence a variable capacitor. The "tuning" part is because these capacitors are used to change the frequency of the circuit that tunes in RF frequencies (stations).

If you spray into this variable capacitor you will likely do two things;

1. You immediately change the dielectric in the capacitor (‘air’ in this case) and change its ‘farad’ value thereby changing the circuit completely (who knows where it will tune if at all??)
2. Permanently gum the works and make that capacitor useless.

The term "pot" is short for 'potentiometer', a variable resistor that can be adjusted to provide a selected resistance.

I find that a can will do several cleanings of a minute or two.

Paul
 
some explanations - long

Hi Brent,

A few answers to your questions:

2. When you spray anything other than air on the vanes of a tuning capacitor, they coat the vanes or fins. Tuning Capacitors are variable air capacitors where the insulating component between the vanes is the air itself and the vanes are the capacitor plates. As the plates are rotated, there is more or less surface area opposing each other which then varies the capacitance that the system sees.

But this assumes that air is the only insulating medium and that its consistent. Most tuners will accumulate a slight coating of dust on the vanes usually evenly distributed so commonly tuning doesn't get intermittent but the whole scale may be thrown off a little. Blowing the dust out with air can correct that. If you're braver than smart, one can try cleaning the vanes also with a q-tip and airdrying solvent. Anyway, if anything is sprayed on the vanes that leaves a residue (like oil or propellant), then the plates see the residue and air which will change the capacitance value which will make the tuner go way off. Or if the residue is unevenly coating the vanes, the capacitor will no longer be linear in its rate of change and the tuner will go way off. Either way, anything other than air between the vanes will screw up the tuner. Then you'll have to clean it carefully with pure IPA carefully. I think others here will tell you its a royal PITA!

A side explanation is tuner gangs means Ganged capacitors -more than one variable capacitor is hooked together on a common shaft so that all sections are moved together (like a chain gang working together). A rough estimate of tuner quality has to do with how many caps are ganged together - the typical for most analog receiver/tuners was 3 section gangs, best I've heard are 5 section gangs on TOTL units.

3. The term "pots" refers to the controls named potentiometers - devices to control voltage potential between two points (or more) in a circuit. They are also called sometimes variable resistors and can handle voltage at usually low current levels, say less than 0.5 amps. Most potentiometers are made from conductive carbon, conductive plastic, or fine wirewound resistive elements. Newer units are made from metal or carbon film elements laid down on a substrate with a wiper attached to the shaft.

Stepped attenuators are the same type of pot above with a mechanical device to provide stepped rotation instead of continuous rotation. This provides some repeatability in resistance value per rotation position. True precision stepped attenuators may be built from 24 position switch-like devices with discrete resistive elements between each position.

High power potentiometers that handle high current (>1 amp) are mostly wirewound elements on a large core to dissipate heat generated by the element. These are more commonly called rheostats (which I don't know the derivation of). Typical are analog light dimmers, Variacs (really high power and voltage), and heater control elements.

4. Typically, compressed air cans for me last about 1 per 3 units cleaned. But I can blow 1 can into 1 unit if its big, complicated, and very dirty. But for $3-5 dollars, what a difference it can make in appearance and function when the unit is properly cleaned.

5. Brushes - you're on the right track. I use common soft to firm haired paint brushes, with good sized handles. Buy an assortment from your local hardware/paint store ranging from 1/2" to 3 inch widths, will cover most anything you need to clean. An assortment of non-lint producing Q-tips or swabs and cleaning pads from an electronics parts store will help with those hard to reach spots. You just don't want to leave anything like lint or brush hairs behind if possible.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Bart
 
Blow the dust out between the plates of tuning capacitors. Then you will notice that the moving (rotor) plates are attached to the shaft, and electrical contact is made between the shaft and frame (usually) with a spring wiper between the capacitor frame and the shaft. This wiper may be at one end of the frame or on a center section support Put a few drops of contact cleaner on the wiper and work the tuning cap back and forth. This contact needs to be cleaned or you can eventually have scratchy/intermittent tuning. To get drops, you might want to squirt a little cleaner into the cap of the can and then use a toothpick to apply.

In some cases a capacitor will not use the wiper arrangement, but a piece of flexible braid will be soldered between the tuning shaft and the capacitor frame. On those, just blow out the plates.

On all, for the front ball bearings, clean out with contact cleaner and then apply Lubriplate or equal with a toothpick. Same on rear bearing. If the rear bearing is hard to get at, a sparing drop of oil will do. Keep the cleaner away from the plates and from any trimmer capacitors that might be on the main cap. Cleaner on the trimmer caps can upset the alignment of the set.

Q-tips and toothpicks are great tools to keep on the workbench.

Reece
 
Quick question, maybe I missed it in here, but when cleaning pots, do you take them apart and clean the inside, or what method do sugest when cleaning something like a volume pot, or a switch. I need to clean up my yamaha amp.
 
My, My how time"s have changed. Look for the access point. A little hole in the pot. This is a Spec tacular thread.
 
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