Audiokarma.org
Audiokarma Featured Sponsor

Go Back   AudioKarma.org Home Audio Stereo Discussion Forums > McIntosh Audio


We appreciate your help

in keeping this site going.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-21-2008, 05:18 AM
agreenspan agreenspan is offline
AK Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 15
McIntosh MA6300 vs. MA6500

Hi everyone! I would appreciate anyone's help in choosing one of these integrated amps. I live on an island (Nantucket), so I can't really go to a dealer without getting on a plane or boat and then renting a car to drive 100 miles to hear them myself. I found them both at audioclassics.com used. The 6500 is about $400 more. I know that the 6500 is going to be discontinued, and is older. The 6500 has 20w more power at 8 ohms. I've talked to different dealers. The ones that don't seem too informed say they sound the same, but one has more power. The ones that sound like they know what they are talking about have a strong opinion either way. Many say the 6300 sounds better and has better circuitry, since it is newer. Others say that the 6300 might sound cleaner, but the 6500 sounds better overall. I have b&w 705 speakers, and in a year, I will probably upgrade to the 805s (which like more power). I would appreciate anyones opinion, as you all probably have more experience in this than I do. Thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-21-2008, 09:37 AM
pwhartman pwhartman is offline
AK Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 36
There is nothing like listening to them to see what differences there are to your ears (and in your system). Short of that, I tend to go with latest technology and 20 watts won't make much difference and it will save you $400 you could put into another aspect of the system or towards your new 805s.

I have heard the 6300 but not the 6500 and could easily live with its sound. I can't imagine the 6500 would be so much better (if at all) that you would love the sound of one and hate the other. The only other consideration might be feature set of one versus the other. The 6300 does not have tone controls; some people turn their nose up at them, but they can be nice to have and you can always choose not use them.

My two cents...

Paul
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-21-2008, 10:26 AM
sully1801's Avatar
sully1801 sully1801 is offline
AK Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: The Empire State
Posts: 486
If I'm not mistaken, I think the MA6300 is rated at 100 WPC & the MA6500 is 200 WPC.
I would definately go with the 6500 if it were me...
The 6500 has more features, especially the ability to drive 2 pair of speakers.
While you may not have an immediate need fo this, I'll bet you will someday...
BTW, good choice with Audio Classics...They'll take good care of you!
__________________
"If music be the food of love, play on"
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-21-2008, 10:42 AM
william.keith william.keith is offline
AK Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,311
If you use the Search engine, there is ample information for you to make an informed decision. Enough has been written herein to sink a battleship. The MA6300 has some newer technology but lacks some classic McIntosh features found on the MA6500. These features may or may not be important to you, they are to me. They will sound the same at comparable volume levels.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-21-2008, 12:13 PM
Prodigal Prodigal is offline
AK Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 71
I used to drive my 805s with MA6500, although I've gone seperates and sold it to my mate, I would highly recommend it as 805s is power hungry ( I am driving them with the MC402 now ) and it's impedenace may go down to 2 ohms at very low frequencies, so that extra power from the MA6500 during 2 ohms loading might come in handy when you need it, the MA6500 still with the classic Mc sound although not equipped with a autoformer. I did listen to a MA6300 for about 20 mins in the shop, I would say it sounds cleaner just as you said, it's a very good int. amp, but I like the MA6500 better.
Reply With Quote
Audiokarma
  #6  
Old 02-21-2008, 12:21 PM
agreenspan agreenspan is offline
AK Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 15
Thanks!!!

Thanks so much to all of you. I have been learning so much. The salesperson at audioclassics steered me towards the 6500. They have both in stock, so it makes no difference to them. They are very helpful and informative.
Stephen.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-21-2008, 01:35 PM
mattj mattj is offline
AK Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 69
I have had both, and moved up from the 6300 to the 6500. In my view, the 6300 is a bit cleaner and more analytical, as others say, but the 6500 has a way more convincing sound: more dimension, more depth. The real difference I have detected is with jazz: the 6500 does a way better job on the bass, and there is more nuance and humanity in the way reeds (e.g. saxes) sound. Also 4 ohm speakers are the way to go with the 6500 but not with the 6300
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-21-2008, 01:53 PM
g_georgi's Avatar
g_georgi g_georgi is offline
AK Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Montreal, QC
Posts: 73
Hey mattj,

I don't mean to veer this topic off course but did you get a chance to listen to the 6900?

I'm also considering 6300 vs 6500 vs 6900 vs 2275 vs C220+M252 but I don't think the local Mac dealer will let me take all that stuff home

Until now his store has been outside of my price range
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-21-2008, 02:10 PM
mattj mattj is offline
AK Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 69
have never heard the 6900... but i needed switching for two sets of speakers, which I'm pretty sure the 6900 doesn't have. There is a thread comparing the 6500 and 6900, and i think it was divided equally between people saying the difference was night and day and people saying just as adamantly there was no difference...
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-21-2008, 09:30 PM
chathamdad's Avatar
chathamdad chathamdad is offline
Piano Trios Rule
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 674
I am a fan of the direct-coupled amps so I would recommend the 6500. I have heard both and liked both, but the 6500 seemed to be faster, more accurate at the mids, and tighter through the lower registers. Soundstaging was better too. Classic OTL sound, with lots of power.

Quote:
If I'm not mistaken, I think the MA6300 is rated at 100 WPC & the MA6500 is 200 WPC.
The 6500 is 120wpc at 8ohms and 200wpc at 4ohms. Ditto on the recommendation of Audioclassics. They are tops. Have fun.
__________________
Amps: McIntosh Mac4300, 1700, 1500, MA6200 and MC754(2).
Sources: Squeezebox, Headroom MicroDAC, Dual 1264, Sony HD tuner, Apple MacMini.
Speakers: Harbeth C7, Spendor LS3/5se, Klipsch KG2.5, KEF Q15, Wharfedale Evo2 10, Celestion DL6.
Reply With Quote
Audiokarma
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:27 PM.



Friends of Audiokarma
We appreciate your help in keeping this site going.
Pro DJ Headphones - click here
Amps and Sound
Wargos Electronics
Organ Donor Parts
Sonneteer
Parts Connexion
Sound Stage Direct
Atlantic Systems
AudioClassics
Take Five Audio
AV Solutions
Audio Salon
Tone Arm Audio
Audience AV
Musical Paradise
Simply Speakers
Classic Sound Repair
BD Enterprise
McIntosh Cabinets
Howard Products
Cabledyne
FM DX Antenna
BOI Audio Works
Siliconray
Amplifiedparts
Vinyl Magic Record Cleaner
RSL Speakers
Grant Fidelity
Urban Antigue Radio
Yesterday's Audio
Many Moons Audio
DeWick Repairs
The Tube Store
Vintage Electronics Repair
Audio Doctor
Politicalchat.org
MCM Electronics
Antique Radio Classifieds
Herbies Audio Lab
Videokarma.org
   
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
ęCopyright 2002-2014 AudioKarma.org, All rights reserved.