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More Karma Indignias.

Port's installed. Baffles in. Tweeters are tight, but they go in. Speakers connected and screwed in place. Up to the kitchen "lab" for a test drive and a cold one...

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WTF? No tweeter in left channel (DAMN)! Ah, no solder on one connection of the crossover o_O. There, I fixed it!

Back to the test drive. Hooked up my Scott 350B FM tuner, Realistic SA-900 pre-amp (only) and Mag 8802 power amp (about 10w/ch) WOW! Someone else said it best- these have more bass than they deserve. No, they don't shake the house, but are smooth and very balanced. Kick drums are more pronounced than the acoustic suspension characteristics of my Fisher XP-65's, yet these aren't one-note bass boxes like my Cerwin Vega D-3's can be sometimes. Found I can put the EQ sliders of the pre-amp closer to flat than I would with other speakers I have.

Test music: FM 103.7 The Dam. Modern rock here in KC, few commercials, a little hard to pick up but generally good fidelity and the 350B does alright with it. I played the station for about an hour and let the speakers and my ears settle in. The appealing bass characteristics makes one think they are larger than they really are.

Now, to the Sony CDP-C50: :yes: The two low notes of Three Dog Night's "Old Fashioned Love Song". The first you hear and the second you feel! YES! My idea of bass response!

The first side of Pink Floyd 'Meddle'. Good mids, good presence... but, my Heil AMT's may have spoiled me in this department.

More to come...

Brian
 
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Blast said:
Port's installed. Baffles in. Tweeters are tight, but they go in.
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I didn't know you were going to paint them. I would have given a little wiggle room if I'd known that. :)

I think one of the greatest attributes of the Indignias is that they're easy to sit and listen for hours without getting tired.
 
RayW said:
I didn't know you were going to paint them. I would have given a little wiggle room if I'd known that. :)

I think one of the greatest attributes of the Indignias is that it's easy to sit and listen for hours without getting tired of them.
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And, I'd listen to them in their stock state and just *wish* that there was something in the least bit "thrilling" to hear. But, :no: there never really was. The cabinets screamed 'class' and the speakers screamed midrange 'bland'.

YOU didn't know I was going to paint them? :dunno: Hell, I don't know what I'm doing until I do it. It's one day at a time, buddy. :D I'm really surprised I stayed on this over the course of 3+ years! :yes: The driving factor was looking at a pair of sad sounding MC1000's on deck in front of my desk on a daily basis and thinking BmW (Scott) already had a pair that mostly likely sounded a lot better!

More listening tomorrow when I have time...

Brian
 
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Blast,

Just saw this question. I removed the grill cloth carefully. Then hogged out the tweeter hole in the frame with a jig saw. The result wasn't pretty, but it is not visible either. Be careful to not break the frame while doing this. Then I restapled the grill clothe to the frame. If I was doing it again, would glue the cloth with 3M spray adhesive.

Scott
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These are the enlargements that need to be done to allow the new drivers and port to pass through:

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I'm thinking I could slip a putty knife though the woofer hole, separating the cloth from the baffle board. Then, as I protect the cloth, I cut through the baffle board with a box/razor/xacto-knife in close proximity to the circles shown (i.e. straight, direct lines).

:dunno: Thoughts? Comments?
 
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Congrats. I still love mine. They handle everything I can throw at them and end being listenable (as in all day without fatigue) on top of that.

Wait 'til they break in and begin sounding full, robust but laid back.
 
Well.....my jigsaw work was not as ugly as I remembered.

You can see I drilled two holes to get each new cut started.

Congrats on completing the build!! They look great.

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I got the baffles cut. It was relatively easy to slide a putty knife between the board and the cloth to protect the cloth as I sliced into the board with a box knife:

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Here they are! Finished!

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You can tell which one I cut first. After I cut the circle I determined it was a lot quicker and easier to cut straight lines. Just like you said, Scott, you can't see a thing from the front.

I detect a difference in sound quality between covers on and off. The difference is minimal, however. While, for serious listening, I would tend to remove the covers I wouldn't hesitate to enjoy them with the covers on, either.

Gotta go check in at the main Indignia thread!

Brian
 
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Scott, do you notice any difference in the sound in regards to the grille cloth?

Brian
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Yes, same as you. I've found that lots of speakers sound better to me with the grills removed.........probably cause I've lost some high frequencies in my hearing.
 
Do you notice difference in the low frequencies? Like the cloth is restricting the amount of air flow?
 
Blast said:
Do you notice difference in the low frequencies? Like the cloth is restricting the amount of air flow?
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I haven't given these any serious listening in a long time. But don't recall any issue with bass and the grills......could be though. Trust your ears.
 
not only do i have a pair of these speakers to refurbish/convert I also have a Meco grill to set the cabinet on just like your picture :)
 
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Bring it on! How about a Black and Decker Workmate for your "indoor shots" :D

You know, the wood handles on that grill JUST broke, right after that picture was taken. Other than that, even sitting out in the weather uncovered for the last 20 years, it just keep on tickin'.

Keep us posted on your progress! :yes:

Brian
 
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