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'New' Altec Valencias join the collection

Bauhausler

Rational Subjectivist
All;
This morning a phone call got me out of bed. It was an antique dealer I have bought audio gear from in the past. He's moving & wanted to sell his Valencias. I got down there in a hurry after a stop at the bank & hauled them home. If I had known these weigh 99 LBS I would have used a dolly to get them into the house instead of carrying them. I only weigh 145 myself. I can handle the weight, but these big cabs are AWKWARD in my gear-stuffed room. These are walnut and somewhat scuffed up. The drivers are 806A/811, 416Z with N800-F network and attenuator. They work fine & I'm playing them now. They've been run less than 2 hours/year over the last decade. In my experience, underused speakers need quite a few hours to loosen up, especially woofers that go up into the midrange, so I'll play them as much as possible for at least a week before making a determination if they'll stay. I'd like them to replace my Cornwalls, which for all their promise never really made my heart go pitter pat.
These speakers join a pair of Altec 605A's in furniture cabinets and a pair of Altec Boleros with 406Z/passive/3000G drivers. The Boleros sound astonishing for what they are and have been my main speakers for the last couple of weeks, occasionally trading off with the 605As. I'm looking for something with the same midrange clarity as the Boleros and more low bass dynamics. I previously had Altec 19's here, which I liked a lot, but they went to Radio X when I got tired of the huge size in front of me all the time. The Valencias have probably 60% of the frontal area of the 19's, which is a good thing.
If the Valencias stay I'll re-cap the networks. In my experience the caps in Altec xovrs drift & replacing them makes a HUGE difference.
Of course they'll play at normal levels with a fraction of a Watt but right now I'm using a 150WPC Accuphase P-300 amp rebuilt by Echowars, barely ticking over 150mW on most music. I'll try out my 8W homebuilt PP triode 6L6 amps later today. That should be nice.
 
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Wow.

Congrats Bauhausler. Nice phone call to start the day.

Cheers, Snade

Thanks. Nice for the listening room but it took a chunk out of the discretionary purchase fund!
They're playing now and doing a respectable job on this Holly Cole CD. Encouraging so far.
 
Well done. :thmbsp:

You kinda like these Altecs,don't you? :yes:

I'd like to hear your assessment of the Valencias.
 
Are they A or B models?

Congrats and welcome to the 846 club. Had I know you would be interested I would have gladdly traded you a pair of Valencias for your 19's.
 
On the crossovers, I'd suggest you plan on just building a new set. Those in the cabinets are potted and would probably be more interesting in original condition for the collectors. There are quite a few alternatives out there, too.

I believe Zilch has had a hand in a couple of them, n'est pas?

Cheers,

David
 
DJWojo has an excellent thread on the crossover rebuild for these with some nice photos.

If they are A's we would have had a deal for those 19's......Dag! :D
 
Damnit. Another reminder that I need to redo the crossovers in my Milanos. I'm anxious to hear the difference in the before and after with them.

Great find!
 
DJWojo has an excellent thread on the crossover rebuild for these with some nice photos.

If they are A's we would have had a deal for those 19's......Dag! :D
I did up a pair of 846B XO's!! ALTEC XO's

Those 846A's will be sweet for tubes, yes, I'd re-do the XO's, Zilch had some nice designs for the A's. If I get some BMS 4550's for Christmas, I'll have to share my opinion of them, Dave. :yes:
 
Crossovers

Yes, that sounds like the way to go. I'd retain the originals for originality and make new ones. Unless they use odd chokes I probably have the parts on hand to make the xovrs. I do a LOT of work on speakers and tend to buy 10 of anything I need 1 of, just on speculation.
I'll go looking for that thread. Any idea what it was called?
 
846a

The Altec page I have here indicates 846B as the type number of the Valencia. These are labeled 846A. The label says they have 416Z, 806A and N800-F. This appears to be significant. Can anyone tell me why?
 
The Altec page I have here indicates 846B as the type number of the Valencia. These are labeled 846A. The label says they have 416Z, 806A and N800-F. This appears to be significant. Can anyone tell me why?
846A's use 16 ohm drivers, 846B's use 8 ohm drivers, the B's use an N800-8K XO, and 806-8A/416-8A combo. :yes:
 
I did up a pair of 846B XO's!! ALTEC XO's

Those 846A's will be sweet for tubes, yes, I'd re-do the XO's, Zilch had some nice designs for the A's. If I get some BMS 4550's for Christmas, I'll have to share my opinion of them, Dave. :yes:

What do these cost? And where can I find them? They only place that shows up on google as 'in stock' is, I think, 'US Speaker'(?). And they want something like $135 ea. plus s/h. In another 846 thread someone said they were going for $115.

I'm looking for some HF driver alternatives as my 806's seem to have shot phragms!:tears: But I heard they might be repairable, could this be true?
 
The 846A and B's are both known as Valencias. The A models came first and have the lattice grills and the furniture edge tops.

They both have the same drivers but my A's are 16 ohm units and my B's are 8ohm.



*****Sorry for this post as I had not noticed the second page, DOH!*********
 
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