jnoyes
Super Member
No, everyone does get it. You don't like the AT95, others do. Why are you all worked up about other peoples opinions?
Get over it!
BTW, who are you to say what reality is regarding the sound of any cartridge?
Jon
AT95e why does everyone love this?
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No, everyone does get it. You don't like the AT95, others do. Why are you all worked up about other peoples opinions?
Get over it!
BTW, who are you to say what reality is regarding the sound of any cartridge?
Jon
melofelo
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Carefully aligned at 1.85-1.9gm downforce and about 1.8gm antiskate according to the dial, I've used this AT-95E cartridge *body* in an Ariston RD60 3 point suspended with Ariston Enigma (Jelco manufactured) arm since 1988 . I have better cartridges but the package as a whole sounds balanced with as much detail, depth and imaging as you could ask for from a budget cartridge.
It's Smooth sounding and never fatiguing to listen to on a wide range of music. Only on full scale orchestral works might you wish for a bit more 'layering' of the sound stage and a bit more 'ambient' resolution...and for that...you need look no further than the AT-110E if classical is your thing.
On jazz,pop,reggae,soul,fusion,rock,latin,vocals,guitar,percussion...it pretty much ticks enough sonic boxes to leave well alone and simply buy more records.
Don't write off the humble at95e until you've heard it in a decent fixed plinth or suspended table with an arm of the right mass (10gm effective mass or more)..it's a fun listen when well setup.:thmbsp:
It's Smooth sounding and never fatiguing to listen to on a wide range of music. Only on full scale orchestral works might you wish for a bit more 'layering' of the sound stage and a bit more 'ambient' resolution...and for that...you need look no further than the AT-110E if classical is your thing.
On jazz,pop,reggae,soul,fusion,rock,latin,vocals,guitar,percussion...it pretty much ticks enough sonic boxes to leave well alone and simply buy more records.
Don't write off the humble at95e until you've heard it in a decent fixed plinth or suspended table with an arm of the right mass (10gm effective mass or more)..it's a fun listen when well setup.:thmbsp:
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Yamahaha
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You rant a long one without realizing or reading the test table was a Yamaha PX-2
jnoyes
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neobop
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You spoke about hundreds of posts approving of the 95, but you got different results. So what?
I'd bet there are also hundreds of post attesting to dramatic changes after break-in, but you think it's nonsense. Unlike electronics, here happens to be a mechanical aspect to a phono cartridge.
Not sure what that 99% means. How can you quantify components of performance? I guess what your implying is the 110 has a better quality diamond?
Even if you broke-in the 95 and terminated with < 200pF total shunt capacitance, you still might not like it, or like it as much as your 110. It depends on your phono stage, system, and taste. The 110 is a great cart for $139 (3X the price), but it's no giant killer. It's ironic that you talk about changing it's look or using a wood case and selling it for $1K, because that's what Clearaudio does with the 95 body/generator. There are slight differences depending on the model and Maestro has boron/ML tip. The 95 is a nice budget cart with great potential. At $139 the 110 is a throwaway when worn. It would cost more to retip than buying a new one.
neo
So far no mention has been made of arm mass, or of the capacitance loading.
Both of these variables can be involved in turning a silk purse into a sows ear....
(or you might just not like the AT95's voicing...)
Audio Technica cartridges in general work best at around 150pf - which is the AT recommendation. In many setups and with most phono stages this is almost impossible to achieve.
bye for now
David
Both of these variables can be involved in turning a silk purse into a sows ear....
(or you might just not like the AT95's voicing...)
Audio Technica cartridges in general work best at around 150pf - which is the AT recommendation. In many setups and with most phono stages this is almost impossible to achieve.
bye for now
David
I have both the AT95E and a Denon DL110. The 95E came with a budget turntable (the LP-120) and, while I was very pleased with the balance and imaging of the cartridge, it does have a propensity to produce lots of surface noise. I also found that the DL110 was similarly noisy on the same table with lots of clicks and pops. On my Project TT, the Denon has a very different character--the pops and clicks are pretty much inaudible on the same recordings. I have not tried the AT95E in this table (I hate fiddling with cartridge setup, especially with the thin wires on the Project), but as far as noise with the Denon was concerned, I assume much of it was due to the arm on the 120.
Best,
Brian
Best,
Brian
Yamahaha
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Balifly
Listening
The Yamaha PX-2 is a linear trackers with shorter and lighter tone arm.
The requirements are not the same as the more conventional longer, heavier tone arms.
The Yamaha PX-2 does not come with a cartridge.
The Yamaha PX-3 with a simpler tone arm comes with a pretty nice lomc cartridge.
Which cartridges are you using with the Yamaha PX-2 now? :scratch2:
The requirements are not the same as the more conventional longer, heavier tone arms.
The Yamaha PX-2 does not come with a cartridge.
The Yamaha PX-3 with a simpler tone arm comes with a pretty nice lomc cartridge.
Which cartridges are you using with the Yamaha PX-2 now? :scratch2:
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melofelo
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They look like well made turntables from the pics I've seen.
The thing is...whether you use a vintage budget Pioneer PL12D or a fully tricked out Linn LP12...You 'generally' aim to match the effective mass of the tonearm with the compliance range of the cartridge...regardless of the cost or design of the cartridge itself.
If you have an obvious mis-match between tonearm mass and cartridge compliance ,then, simply dialing in the optimum tracking force on your tonearm isn't always enough to ensure the stylus tracks properly under dynamic load.
This isn't meant as an apology for the AT-95e but just a general guideline to observe if you try a cartridge without checking whether or not the compliance range is suitable for the tonearm you are using.
The humble AT-110e might work better in your Yamaha tonearm as it is designed to work with a *low.ish* mass arm and has a finer profile tip than the at-95e.
Both cartridges are budget cartridges..but I've heard them both playing well recorded vinyl in a couple of top notch turntables (ie not just expensive..but built for one thing only..soundly quality..) ..and both of them were sufficiently good to embarrass several decent red book cd players I've heard when playing analogue mastered music from the pre -90s. Food for thought...:scratch2:
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Your statement "it's a Yamaha not a Pioneer PL-L1000" inplies that no Yamaha turntable is as good as, or better than, a Pioneer PL-L1000. That would be incorrect.
