A-S2000 in the house
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Aspen
Active Member
I feel your pain. I avoid all of this now by shipping stuff to a receiver in Port Huron, MI for $5 a parcel. I save tons on shipping and fees and just pay my tax at the border. Lucky for me it is only a 1 hour drive.
I know a guy who works for UPS corporate, he agreed that they don't give a flying fig about individuals, they only cater to the business shippers.
:thmbsp: I had no doubt that this would be the case.
Looking forward to your listening results.
frankbooth
Super Member
Yes, looking for your impressions.
The single box is quite lackluster for such a heavy piece. I have boxes for shitty DVD players weighing 5 pounds that are heavier than this is.
Glad you're sorted.
The single box is quite lackluster for such a heavy piece. I have boxes for shitty DVD players weighing 5 pounds that are heavier than this is.
Glad you're sorted.
Yamahaha
Well-Known Member
Impressions right now are its a lovely amp. The first one must have been dropped or caps failed ... etc. The phono was lifeless and the MC option produced zero output. Then of course was the unusable volume that threw the amp into protection should the vol be adjusted. Who knows but definitely that unit was toast.
Amp #2 isn't the best phono I've ever heard, but its perfectly usable and nice sounding. No complaints in this class. Both MM and MC function. Soundstage is lovely. Really nice separation. Not the most powerful amp but delivers enough clean sound for home use. I like to get loud but not concert levels. Seems unique to me how the power is delivered. My vintage units "push". The 2000 seems to "present". No harshness, no mud, just clean sound. And so quiet .. seems to make no noise of its own. Overall I must admit the sound is better than any vintage unit I have. For reasons of separation. I can easily hear each instruments place in the mix. While the bass may not boom with the authority of my SX1250 .... the 2000 doesnt lack power and bass is clean and tight. Which now makes me think the 1250 colors/fuzzes the bass.
Anyway, time will tell. It if lasts add my vote to the "amazing for price" club.
The original box and packing sucks. If I was a retailer I would really not want to ship them as is. Yamaha support was lacking completely and I hope I never have to deal with them on warranty. HiFi Heaven took care of me. Glad I went with them and not the auction site.
Amp #2 isn't the best phono I've ever heard, but its perfectly usable and nice sounding. No complaints in this class. Both MM and MC function. Soundstage is lovely. Really nice separation. Not the most powerful amp but delivers enough clean sound for home use. I like to get loud but not concert levels. Seems unique to me how the power is delivered. My vintage units "push". The 2000 seems to "present". No harshness, no mud, just clean sound. And so quiet .. seems to make no noise of its own. Overall I must admit the sound is better than any vintage unit I have. For reasons of separation. I can easily hear each instruments place in the mix. While the bass may not boom with the authority of my SX1250 .... the 2000 doesnt lack power and bass is clean and tight. Which now makes me think the 1250 colors/fuzzes the bass.
Anyway, time will tell. It if lasts add my vote to the "amazing for price" club.
The original box and packing sucks. If I was a retailer I would really not want to ship them as is. Yamaha support was lacking completely and I hope I never have to deal with them on warranty. HiFi Heaven took care of me. Glad I went with them and not the auction site.
Good to hear that it is good to hear....
SuperLead100
"These go to 11"
As a Yamaha fan it would have been very disheartening if you did not like the sound. I had a Pioneer SX3900 at one point and felt it did color the sound somewhat. That is why I love Yamaha; it just produces what was recorded without extra fluff.
Some people think it is clinical and lacks bass; I think it's natural and if the bass is in the recording it comes out for display with the Yami.
Some people think it is clinical and lacks bass; I think it's natural and if the bass is in the recording it comes out for display with the Yami.
frankbooth
Super Member
Seems unique to me how the power is delivered. My vintage units "push". The 2000 seems to "present". No harshness said:
TudorTurtle
Well-Known Member
It's a beaut. WAF is over the top, and I'm being happily pushed toward a stack of aluminium w/oak trim components.
Yamahaha, Glad to read that your replacement is doing it's thing!
Glad you got your issues fixed. I also purchased a 2000 from HiFi Heaven - they were great to deal with. I agree with your description of the sound quality and phono stage on the 2000. I didn't like the phono at all and quickly got an outboard stage. Really nice amp and very smooth but I felt a tad thin sounding at times compared to some of my vintage units.
Yamahaha
Well-Known Member
That is the trade off. I have been struggling with this for some time with all units. The vintage sound is definitely a big powerful event. Modern Hifi is no question cleaner. The Yamaha is much like other modern hifi amps I've tried. It runs quiet, their is no crosstalk and the music is well defined. However it lacks that umpff vintage units like my SX-1250 provide. But then is that umpf simply bass pumped up in the EQ?
Nothing will ever be perfect at all times. I do like the new touches like isolated signal (no crosstalk which all the old units suffer from). A remote (yes my aging self like to adjust vol/source from the chair. and of course full size speaker connectors. The old units wont accept my normal speaker cable without installing pin connectors on them. Its interesting that back then none of the manufacturers seems to think thicker than 14 awg was warranted. All the big power units have the same little connectors.
I get so tired of swapping units ... since the yammy arrived I haven't bothered.
Yes HiFi Heaven proved themselves a quality merchant. No affiliation other than this transaction. Good service does warrant mention.
johsti
Active Member
Turn the bass knob to 1 o'clock and see if that helps. Or, you can try a bunch of different cables
joekapahulu
Active Member
AS2000 vs New Marantz?
I have been looking at getting the Yamaha AS2000 but have never heard it. I have heard the Marantz Reference PM15S2 and liked it. Have any of you heard each of these units and have comments....would be very appreciated.
Also, good to hear that HiFiHouse is a reputable outlet. I have been looking at them as a good source as their prices seem to be pretty reasonable.
I have been looking at getting the Yamaha AS2000 but have never heard it. I have heard the Marantz Reference PM15S2 and liked it. Have any of you heard each of these units and have comments....would be very appreciated.
Also, good to hear that HiFiHouse is a reputable outlet. I have been looking at them as a good source as their prices seem to be pretty reasonable.
