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Old 04-13-2007, 11:54 PM
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Thumbs up NS-1000 sucessor

http://www.yamaha-uk.com/pdf/Soavo%2...0Apr%20071.pdf

Looks like Yamaha finally has a successor to the greatest NS-1000

David Price is in love with them, even though the aluminum tweeter is unable to match the beryllium ones in 1000, the imaging and balance alone tilts the scale, guess would be a nice addition to my collection even at the whopping $2000+ price.
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Old 04-14-2007, 12:24 AM
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He compared them to NS-1000M's not the larger NS-1000's or the even better NS-1000x's. I'll take any of the NS-1000's over those new Yammie speakers any day.
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Old 04-14-2007, 12:28 AM
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He compared the treble and mids of 1000M to the Soavo, the 1000M has the same treble and mid character as the 1000x, only in bass does the 1000x hold an edge. Point being its good to see Yamaha back on track for the next coming generations by making a speaker like the Soavo. Natural accurate sound is what Yamaha is after, with the NS-1000 series they succeeded quite well, now with Soavo series they revive and pay tribute to the great NS-1000.
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Old 04-14-2007, 12:57 PM
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He compared them to NS-1000M's not the larger NS-1000's or the even better NS-1000x's. I'll take the NS-1000x's over those new Yammie speakers any day.
They sure look nice but all the same, I'll stick with my NS-1000M's. IMHO they're pretty hard to beat overall except for say a pair of NS-2000's .

Another AKer who has both 1000's and 1000M running comments here that when you close your eyes you can't really tell the difference between the two types. As I understand it, in an acoustic suspension design it's the drivers you are designing for, not the cabinet resonance and the drivers, as is the case in a bass reflex design.

The 1000X's are speced as producing slightly more bass than the 1000's/1000M's but I've read comments on AK that say having had both 1000M's and X's, they can't hear enough difference to warrant the difference in price except when it comes to WAF (which is important enough if you'd like to have them in your livingroom). It only took 1 listening to the 1000M's for my wife to say, "OK, you can leave those right where they are ."
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Old 04-14-2007, 01:13 PM
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They sure don't LOOK like they're in the same league.. Not that appearance is that important, but if they really are good.. they sure don't look it. Looks like cheap HT to me.
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Old 04-14-2007, 01:52 PM
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They sure don't LOOK like they're in the same league.. Not that appearance is that important, but if they really are good.. they sure don't look it. Looks like cheap HT to me.
I think they look awesome! And they probably sound awesome too.
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Old 04-14-2007, 03:21 PM
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Thanks yamaha1, that was an enjoyable review to read. The reviewer explained his opinion in a clear, concise review. I think they are nice looking also.
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Old 04-14-2007, 05:14 PM
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Damn! Now I have something else to lust after. Add these to my short list. I'm in the speaker market right now and these fall right into my price range.

I'm gonna sell off everything I own, go sit on a moutain top and leave this insanity behind. may have to take an iPod though!
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Old 04-14-2007, 09:50 PM
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Cosmos,

Looks can be deceptive and subject to built up perceptions, most see the NS-1000 as cheap ugly disco era left overs, specially the 1000M with its metal mesh over the drivers, to me, both my NS-1000 look like true speakers. Yamaha's latest speaker offerings, be it the low end NS-555/777 or the Soavo have way better finish than its counterparts from say B&W, Paradigm etc. So before you pre-judge them, suggest you audition them and check them out.

I am truly happy that the Soavo scored this well, last time it was the NS-8HX which got fantastic reviews but not from the English press, it was Australian and German. At least the coming generation, those who can't get a NS-1000 will still be able to savor the accurate Yamaha sound.

One point to consider is that David Price, editor of Hi Fi World as well as the reviewer for Soavo himself is a devout NS-1000 fan, he uses them as his personal speakers, so for the Soavo to impress him, it must have taken a lot.
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Old 04-14-2007, 10:11 PM
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Oooohh, when I first saw the $2000 price tag I thought maybe, just checked out their site and they're $1800 APIECE, I didn't catch that at first. Still interesting!.....R1
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Old 04-14-2007, 10:58 PM
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One point to consider is that David Price, editor of Hi Fi World as well as the reviewer for Soavo himself is a devout NS-1000 fan, he uses them as his personal speakers, so for the Soavo to impress him, it must have taken a lot.
Interesting.
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Old 04-14-2007, 11:18 PM
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Vint Age,

As per your avatar pic,I see you keep your NS-1000 pretty close to the wall, contrary to the recomendations, how is the result of keeping them close to the wall by the way?

I keep mine 3ft away from walls and corners.
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Old 04-15-2007, 12:04 AM
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They sure don't LOOK like they're in the same league.. Not that appearance is that important, but if they really are good.. they sure don't look it. Looks like cheap HT to me.
My thoughts entirely, speaker technology peaked in the 70's, everything since has been an attempt to retain most of the quality, but with more visual appeal.

(just my opinion) etc.
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Old 04-15-2007, 12:09 AM
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Skinley,

The two Yamaha devs used the NS-1000 as their benchmark and from the various test reports I read about the Soavo, they seemed to have done a mighty fine work at that, although the designers admitted that nothing will come close to the NS-1000, not possible unless you put beryllium back in equation.
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Old 04-15-2007, 12:22 AM
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The two Yamaha devs used the NS-1000 as their benchmark and from the various test reports I read about the Soavo, they seemed to have done a mighty fine work at that, although the designers admitted that nothing will come close to the NS-1000, not possible unless you put beryllium back in equation.
That's what I meant, better looking and almost as good.
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