Styrofoam peanuts...
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Elfasto
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I feel your pain brother. Last September I won an eBay auction for one of my TR-3000 reel to reel decks. It was a totally working unit (guy sent me a video of the thing playing music and everything). UPS shipped it, and smashed it to pieces. The front face was broken, the reel clamps were bent, and they hit the case hard enough to break the power supply PC board in 3 places. I reglued the board together, repaired the copper circuitry on the board by bridging the breaks with solder, and it does power up now, but it has other issues I'm still working out.
The seller was pretty decent. He got the money back from UPS, and he sent me my entire bill, minus the shipping costs (I let him have that for his trouble).
The seller was pretty decent. He got the money back from UPS, and he sent me my entire bill, minus the shipping costs (I let him have that for his trouble).
Tapehead47
Addicted Member
I can see the UPS guys high-5'ing now. Or whoever.
I just received an Akai unit from Jack Gifford thru the mail. He packed it in 3 progressive layers. 1) wrapped in bubble stuff inside a box that was 2) surrounded by hard foam panels. 3) inside another heavy cardboard box. There was no potential for damage thru momentum.
I'm saving that packaging in case I need to mail a receiver one day.
I just received an Akai unit from Jack Gifford thru the mail. He packed it in 3 progressive layers. 1) wrapped in bubble stuff inside a box that was 2) surrounded by hard foam panels. 3) inside another heavy cardboard box. There was no potential for damage thru momentum.
I'm saving that packaging in case I need to mail a receiver one day.
nickrobotron
una bella tazza di caffe
Anyone with questions about how to ship a receiver, ask Toasted Almond. Good Lord... I don't even know what to call this stuff. Moon foam? Whatever it is, it did a fantastic job. Thanks George.
jeffn
Mid-Fi Crisis
Mmm packaging....... Even in a steel box you need to protect the item from banging around inside. The best you can do is to spread the load from any impact across as great an area as possible. To do this using cardboard and foam you'd have to have VERY thick packaging around the unit and some packing firm enough to spread the forces without being so firm that it simply transfers the forces. (kinda like a cars crumple zone). I think that for MOST of us, luck plays as big a part as any......The kind of forces that caused the damage EW posted would need some pretty awesome packaging withstand I'd reckon. Did someone mention the existence of a Packaging Angel the other day?
ozmoid
Lunatic Member
At the sort facility, there's a little device at each conveyor belt intersection called a "kicker" (imagine that) that moves your box to where it needs to be next. My driver claims much of this type of damage is caused on the conveyor, by the kicker, or by the other boxes around your item as the system jams and stuff piles up - often dumping boxes off to the floor.
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Toasted Almond
RIP 1952-2016
Nick. You have no idea how bad I wanted that thing to get to you without a scratch on it. It's one type of foam that aircraft parts get shipped in. I DO like the name "moon foam" though, and will be using it from now on.
dewickt
Will fix about Anything
Heavy equipment likes to migrate in popcorn, it will keep moving till it pushes it's way to the side of the box, then the shipper does the rest....
Here is a UPS job, also was missing the foam corner support, drivers comment "The inner box looks OK" as he walked off. Heck of a way to destroy a $70 factory carton, the preamp came out OK though.
Here is a UPS job, also was missing the foam corner support, drivers comment "The inner box looks OK" as he walked off. Heck of a way to destroy a $70 factory carton, the preamp came out OK though.
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similost
Rockin and Rollin....
I'm shocked.. they need to send that one back to the depot.. they missed 6 corners...
himm37
Well-Known Member
Here's my methods, I'll be doing a "Monster receiver" Page soon, but it's very similar to the RT 909 shown!
Standard Size
RT 909
Speakers
Standard Size
RT 909
Speakers
On the RT-909 packaing, you need about 1" clearance arond the reel spindals. If the package gets dropped on the sides, top or bottom, the machine will move in those directions, while the face protection foam will not. This will cause your spindals to get bent.
Enjoy,
Rich P
daddydlb
Well-Known Member
Wow, thats sad. My Pioneer SA 6800 was waiting for me when I got home. Opened the box and could not believe what I saw. The amp was not damaged, just has a rattle I cannot track down. Will post a pic in the morning, a re-enactment. All I have to do is put one wrap of bubble wrap around half of it and drop it in a box way way to big that is 1/4 full with peanuts. Will notify seller of poor packing and see what response I get.
merrylander
AK Member
Exactly, that's why I save the plastic bags from the newspaper and fill them with popcorn (peanuts or angel turd, whatever you call it) so that it can't migrate and let the contents bash through the wall of the box.
Just goes to show that in this hobby you have to be electronics savvy, part sheet metal worker, and part cabinetmaker. There is a 7070 here needing all three.
