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Old 04-05-2008, 04:18 PM
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Realistic Lab series turntables?

You don't hear much about Realistic turntables and they generally go for cheap on epay and Craigs. My understanding is that the same japanese manufacturer who made these also made them for Marantz, etc. I have a line for a Lab 395 I might pick up for a friend who is putting together a retro system. The platter looks heavier than many of the other Jap units of this era. Any thoughts on them?
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Old 04-06-2008, 06:54 PM
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I have a LAB-395. My moms b/f gave it to me for free. It works and everything, but both my Technics SL-1300 and Pioneer PL-530 (when it was working) run circles around it. I keep it as my back up table. It doesnt sound too bad, but Im not a big fan of plastic and semi-auto. The good news its made in Japan! But there are better choices.
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Old 04-06-2008, 06:56 PM
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My friend has a Lab 1100. It works but just about anything else you can find would be better.
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Old 04-06-2008, 07:57 PM
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I have 2:

LAB-450 - BPC. Flimsy construction, but good platter drive motor. Fairly accurate RPM control. Straight Tonearm is nothing to write home about, and no vertical tracking adjustment. Worked alot better when I shoved about 500 grams of plaster under the platter, and a whack of metal weights glued to the inside of the "Plinth".

LAB-100 - Made by BSR for Radio Shack. AC synchronous motor belt drive. Much heavier build than the 450, mechanically it's built like a Leopard battle tank, but the S- shaped tonearm sucks (Flimsy mounting) and again no vertical tracking adjustment. Also has this cartridge mount that slides in an out of the headshell, but it's sloppy as hell (even when new). If there was a way to mount a better tonearm on it, it would be an awesome chassis to use. Subchassis is well sprung, nice weight to the plinth, and solid wood.
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Old 04-06-2008, 08:41 PM
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My sweetie bought me a LAB-1200. It is one of those plastic ones RS was selling a couple of years ago. The cool thing is it has a pre-amp built in so you can use it with a new receiver's aux. inputs. I also have a LAB395...crap. I'm one of the RS fans, but its the speakers I like. I have something like twenty pairs.
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Old 04-06-2008, 09:13 PM
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I picked up a LAB 395 the other day for a couple of bucks at a thrift store with plans of giving it to a buddy to try and get him into vinyl. The platter does have some mass to it, but the rest of it is very flimsy. It sounded better than I expected (though my expectations were that it wouldn't even turn on), but I was getting some scary subsonic woofer excursions on records that I know aren't warped. I haven't really looked into it and that old thing isn't really high on my project priority list.
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Old 04-06-2008, 09:16 PM
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If you all want to get into arm surgery, there are brand new S arms with nice bearings, vertically adjustable, good anti skate and all from Audio Technica for around $160. That sounds a bit pricey, but tone arms start about there and go up to thousands for some. It's a nice arm for an all manual conversion
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Old 04-06-2008, 09:34 PM
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My first real turntable back in the late 70's/early 80's was a Realistic Lab 400. If I could find another one for reasonable and close by, I'd pick it up in a second. Sentimental reasons and it just sounded good for what it was back then.
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Old 04-06-2008, 11:10 PM
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I had a mid '60's Realistic Lab-(don't remember the number) that was actually a Miracord 40A 4 speed idler driven TT. It was built like a tank. I wound up giving it to a friend so he'd have a decent TT for his albums. After a few years, he sold it at a yard sale for $5 because he found a "more modern looking" TT. I would have given the $5 to get the TT back had I known he wanted to sell it. Needless to say, I gave him a lecture letting him know that his new BPC turntable was garbage compared to the one that I gave him.

I also had an early '80's Lab-440. That was a DD auto-TT in a particle board plinth and a straight tonearm. I guess it was OK; but, I've certainly seen better.

I've also seen other Lab series TT's from the '70's that were nothing more than rebadged BSR record changers with ceramic cartridges. You know, the same TT's that were used in 99% of those "all in one" systems.
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Old 04-08-2008, 02:34 PM
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The only LAB's I have experience with are the LAB-400 and LAB-450. Those were made by CEC (same company that was making tables for MARANTZ and Quadraflex) and they were both very decent tables.
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Old 04-08-2008, 04:29 PM
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Picked up a Lab 2100(DD Liner Track) the other week as part of a package
Think I've got 5 bucks in it

Doesn't want to behave nicely though, Arm moves a bit too far into the record and doesn't quite return to home position when done.
Not sure if it's even worth monkeying with

Any idea who made this one?
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If you all want to get into arm surgery, there are brand new S arms with nice bearings, vertically adjustable, good anti skate and all from Audio Technica for around $160. That sounds a bit pricey, but tone arms start about there and go up to thousands for some. It's a nice arm for an all manual conversion
where does one find this AT arm? I can't find it online.
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Old 04-08-2008, 05:25 PM
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I bought my LAB-400 new in 1979 and haven't had a problem with it yet!
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i've had a lab-420 that i bought used in 1983, it has never missed a beat, i love it nothing fancy but solid a real meat and potatoes work man like table
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I have a LAB 460 and a LAB 1100 (I think it is). The 460 has a nice aluminum platter, belt driven and has a fairly nice sound to it. Very cheap quality, but it does the job. The 1100 was an impulse buy. It was on for $40 at the source on one of their sales, so I grabbed it because I thought I could use the dustcover on my 460. Alas, the hinges are much different.

I use my Denon for critical listening though. I keep the 460 for sentimental reasons
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