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Micro-Line vs. Elliptical for less surface noise?

Dennman6

Active Member
I've read some posts regarding Microline, Line Contact, & Shibata styli as being the best at tracing the grooves with least wear & surface noise. I've been using an Audio Technica 3472BE .4x.7 elliptical stylus (a P-mount cartridge) for my more recent Lps(late 1960s-1980s) on a Technics SL-D93 direct drive table. I've not yet tried a .3x.7mil with this cartridge-will that one help cut noise whilst tracking at the usual 1.25 grams for P-mounts?. While I am getting more detail & crispness out of the Lps with an elliptical than with a conical stylus, I am also getting more scritchy-scratchy surface noise at times also, especially at the beginning of sides.

For my oldest Lps(1948-early 1960s, lots of classical) I've been using a Pickering TLE P-mount with a .7mil conical, which has the added weight cemented to its top & tracks at 3.75 grams. With this TLE I get a lot less "scritchy-scratchy" noise but its response tops out at 17,000 cps vs. 20,000 cps on the Audio Technica. So there is some noticeable loss of top end there. Also the TLE does NOT track "digitally mastered" Lps of the early 1980s at all.

My question is, will the Microline/Line Contact/Shibata styli track so well that I'll get ALL the grooves' quality(such as they are) & the LEAST amount of surface noise? My main purpose in using that TLE conical at 3.75 grams is to minimize the surface noise on my most ancient & beat-up Lps, else I'd go for the better frequency range of the lighter-tracking elliptical(though I don't expect sonic miracles on a 1948 Columbia Masterworks ML-series disc). Plus the conical has that gritty harshness at end-of-side climaxes & loud finales. Of course I know that once the inner-grooves are damaged they ain't NEVER gonna sound sweet again! So is it worth paying $129-160 EACH for these high-end styli compared to about $25-40 each for various elliptical ones?
 
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I really like my Shibata cart. It's more quiet, grabs more detail and overall will reduce wear on records on the long run.
 
I have 2 hyperelliptical carts from lp gear and once digitrac 300se nude fine line p-mount w/ adapter from turntableneedles, all of which exhibit little no surface noise - and all my lp's are used VG+ condition and up. Lpgear hyperelliptical styli should not be that expensive and they track very well.

The one .3X.7 elliptical i do have does produce surface noise. Needless to say, I haven't gone back to it...:no:
 
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I really think that the Shibata is among the best, if not the best, regarding low surface noise. It doesn´t matter what records I play, the Shibata is always much quieter than elliptical or fine-line. The tracking is outstanding, so is the detail receiving and stereo separation. The treble is also very extended but still smooth.
What can I say, I´m really a fan of Shibata.
/gusten
 
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