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Fisher Philharmonic console opinions

pmsummer

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I'm looking locally at a Fisher Philharmonic console in clean, "working" condition. The seller wants less (a little less) than $100 for it. I know it's a 20 watt amp (10 wpc?). I don't have the room for it, but these tube Fisher consoles have been haunting my dreams, and this one is "smallish".

So... any opinions on the Philharmonic? Yeah or nay?

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That looks like the oldest of the Philharmonics (there were 5 models), the P-22.
One drawback of this console is that the ECL86 outputs can be a little pricey.
That tube was intended to amplify ceramic phono carts in use at that time directly, so if it doesn't have another line in (I don't think it did) you'd have to modify the phono input to line level to use a CD and add an RIAA preamp to use a MM cart.
 
That looks like the oldest of the Philharmonics (there were 5 models), the P-22.
One drawback of this console is that the ECL86 outputs can be a little pricey.
That tube was intended to amplify ceramic phono carts in use at that time directly, so if it doesn't have another line in (I don't think it did) you'd have to modify the phono input to line level to use a CD and add an RIAA preamp to use a MM cart.

It has a tape/aux input (or so I was told). If I get it, I am considering dropping my ELAC Miracord 10 into it.
 
I haven't had any experience with the Philharmonic models but I've always been impressed by the quality of the Custom Electras - the next model up. I find the model name "Philharmonic" very appealing as it connects back to Avery Fisher's first company of the same name and is representative of his 'no compromise' console philosophy. The Philharmonics are a bit of an contradiction, though: as the entry-level model of a high-end brand you'd figure that if someone thought of himself as a "Fisher man", so to speak, that he wouldn't feel the need to compromise on size or watts or whatever. I don't know what the numbers are but I suspect that the Custom Electras far outsold the Philharmonics.

The specific model you're looking at, the Modern cabinet from the Philharmonic's debut year, 1961, is arguably the most desirable. As the sixties wore on the styling got busier and, at times - stranger. The Philharmonic also experienced a yearly size increase in the same way that many car models (especially the economy-sized ones) suffer from the creeping bloat that allows the sales department to advertise ever bigger numbers. The '61 Philharmonic is a petite 40" wide - by 1967 it had bulked up to 46" and was fully transistorized to boot.

One good thing to remember about the Philharmonic models, however, is that they were the last to be transistorized. They were the lone remaining tube holdout as late as 1966, by which time the rest of the line-up had made the switch.

I seriously doubt you'd be disappointed by the Philharmonic. Its chief weakness is certainly the record changer. If you're already planning to change that I'd say you're well on your way to becoming a "Fisher man".

Here's the copy from the '61 catalog on the Philharmonic - note the six position input selector has AUX MONO and AUX STEREO positions:

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ECL86? That's identical to a 6GW8 yes?
NOS ECL86 aren't bad from Dick Bergeron (I got Tungsrams when I bought some from him for my AA-32). Now, if you want NOS Mullard, that, I'm sure is a different story...

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Fug, PM, I'd buy that thing in a minute as long as the transformers are all OK.
For the record (no pun intended) a ceramic phono input is close enough to a standard line-level input for Government work :-)
 
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