Vintage CD players
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I believe that question was posed in Stereophile not long ago. Basically the answer was that the improvements have been so dramatic that there are no good vintage CD players. Competant new gear is much better than any of the older gear.
I suppose some of them could be modified with new opamps etc but the general thought was that it all belongs in a dumpster.
I suppose some of them could be modified with new opamps etc but the general thought was that it all belongs in a dumpster.
tentoze
Twangophile
ljh6789 said:
Like every other topic, I think this is a matter of subjective opinion. One of Stereophile's primary missions is to push new equipment into your hands, preferably from their advertisers. Having said that, I will also say that anyone who knocks on my door with a "new, improved" cd player expecting to swap it for either my Denon 1500 or 1700
(both from the mid-80's) would be very disappointed, as a minimum. And, depending on their attitude about the whole thing, might go away wearing their balls for a necklace.
omer
AK Member
But in this respect, from an expense point of view, wouldn't it make more sense to get a new dvd player for $50, and stick a DAC on it, then get an older player that may or may not be on it's last legs.
Then again, new player look so cheap. At least older players are better built, and look the part......
Don't get no respect (RIP, Rodney)
Once, again, Sony don't get no respect.
The early Sony ES series CDPs were and are great machines. While the op-amps and whatever can be upgraded, their quality construction was second to none. And they sound very good, even by today's standards. My brother's -707ES is a terrific piece. When the CD tray opens or closes it is like its on ice. The smoothest operation of any CD machine I've ever played with. Easily the equal of my Denon DCD-1500. His Sony probably weighs close to twice what my Denon weighs and both are single play machines from the mid-80's, which qualifies as 'vintage' where CD is concerned.
I can't think of a vintage Yamaha CD player that makes the grade, IMHO. Other than their separate amps/preamps, Yamaha sort of fell off the quality band-wagon during the mid-80's through the mid-90's. Too much emphasis on the mass-market for all but their high-end.
Once, again, Sony don't get no respect.
The early Sony ES series CDPs were and are great machines. While the op-amps and whatever can be upgraded, their quality construction was second to none. And they sound very good, even by today's standards. My brother's -707ES is a terrific piece. When the CD tray opens or closes it is like its on ice. The smoothest operation of any CD machine I've ever played with. Easily the equal of my Denon DCD-1500. His Sony probably weighs close to twice what my Denon weighs and both are single play machines from the mid-80's, which qualifies as 'vintage' where CD is concerned.
I can't think of a vintage Yamaha CD player that makes the grade, IMHO. Other than their separate amps/preamps, Yamaha sort of fell off the quality band-wagon during the mid-80's through the mid-90's. Too much emphasis on the mass-market for all but their high-end.
MikeJ said:
Any Pioneer LD player with digital audio/CD capacity. Those always sounded as good or better than any CD player of the day, IMHO.
And those Pioneer LD mechanisms are about as good as indestructable, too. I've only had ONE that ever DIDN'T work... and that was from a Goodwill, who knows how many times it had been dropped...
Regards,
Gordon.
I didn't find that but...
The Sony CDP-70 has two rectangular jacks, in and out, for deck controllers.
Currently in glorious mono AM: Taken In-Mike and the Mechanics (yes, I certainly am)
The Sony CDP-70 has two rectangular jacks, in and out, for deck controllers.
botrytis said:
Currently in glorious mono AM: Taken In-Mike and the Mechanics (yes, I certainly am)
CarverPower
SDA SRS 2
:yes: Cant go wrong with the CDP-510 it has a cool reflectic display and it was made in 1987. I gave it away months ago to make room for the TEAC 5-Disk just to get a Harman/Kardon HD-200 made in 1988 :yes:
You keep forgetting...
CDA is a SIXTEEN BIT system. Overscanning is a lot like overclocking or using a higher speed processor, but the SOURCE remains limited unless you resample it and reformat. Then it's only a BETTER? version of what was considered "perfect" 20 years ago. Rescanning a digital format is normally mainly of archival interest and resolution can only be improved by a fixed increment.
The weakest link in the chain is STILL the COMPACT DISC ITSELF. If you try to compare it to vinyl and tape, mastering is still the biggest headache beyond the source recording. Many early releases bear this out.
Do whatever you like to it. The best playback format is probably REEL at 15 ips or better, wider the better. Vinyl does it some real justice, CD sounds pretty good and makes it convenient too.
With that said give the damned things some credit. They still work and WELL too!
Now in glorious mono AM: My Girl by the Temptations. I can hear the bass almost slap...not bad! :yes:
CDA is a SIXTEEN BIT system. Overscanning is a lot like overclocking or using a higher speed processor, but the SOURCE remains limited unless you resample it and reformat. Then it's only a BETTER? version of what was considered "perfect" 20 years ago. Rescanning a digital format is normally mainly of archival interest and resolution can only be improved by a fixed increment.
The weakest link in the chain is STILL the COMPACT DISC ITSELF. If you try to compare it to vinyl and tape, mastering is still the biggest headache beyond the source recording. Many early releases bear this out.
Do whatever you like to it. The best playback format is probably REEL at 15 ips or better, wider the better. Vinyl does it some real justice, CD sounds pretty good and makes it convenient too.
With that said give the damned things some credit. They still work and WELL too!
ljh6789 said:
Now in glorious mono AM: My Girl by the Temptations. I can hear the bass almost slap...not bad! :yes:
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2DualsNotEnough
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Now you tell me!I saw a Pioneer LD player in great working condition for 10 bucks at the thrift the other day.When I came back later,it was gone :cry:GordonW said:
waylyn5945
Active Member
Maybe you were lucky. They are making new CDs every day, how many LDs are they making each day? :thumbsdn:2DualsNotEnough said:
Pioneer PD-65
The Pioneer Elite PD-65 is excellent older CDP and can be used as transport. Had a 12 year production run for that model which in high end audio is amazing. even has digital out! going on ebay for 200-300. looks sweet too, still matches current Elite line-up.
The Pioneer Elite PD-65 is excellent older CDP and can be used as transport. Had a 12 year production run for that model which in high end audio is amazing. even has digital out! going on ebay for 200-300. looks sweet too, still matches current Elite line-up.
