Oh, so THAT's sticky shed!
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macman007
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Ew.
Glad there's nothing important on this tape.
I'm baking it now for the experience.
Buy a large food processor, if you can afford one and suck it dry for several hours. Then let it cool The results will be better. Looking at that tape I think it's beyond salvaging though.
I am going to store my tapes in a vacuum pack when not in use for more than a few months to preserve them.
Good Luck :thmbsp:
Peace,
You got a lot of cleaning to do brother, may I recommend Everclear 200 proof grain alcohol from the liquor store. It works best with no nasty after affects or long term damage easily removing sticky shed residue. A pint will last forever. And lots of long stem q-tips. Don't forget the tooth brush and dawn dish detergent for the pinch rollers. Rinse thoroughly dry, then oil as required in the manual. Use foam swabs on the heads if available
Par special attention to the heads. It may take several passes to de-gunk them.
Phil
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Cadillac Kid
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Ampex?
rollei35guy
Super Member
My Tandbberg encountered some sticky shred tape. Took several cleanings to get it de-gunked.
I pulled the rest of the tape off the reels in clumps. Totally stuck together. what a mess.
Remember baking the tape is only a temporary fix for transferring to a more stable medium. Not a long term fix.
I pulled the rest of the tape off the reels in clumps. Totally stuck together. what a mess.
Remember baking the tape is only a temporary fix for transferring to a more stable medium. Not a long term fix.
Cadillac Kid
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I know you are just playing with it, but convection heat would be better. Shamrock was made by Ampex and is very prone to SSS.
Cadillac Kid
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Oh, and use a metal reel.
Numistrek09
Super Member
Yep, thats what my transport looked like after a fellow gave me some Ampex 456 reels to try. I only discovered the make of the tape after it made a mess. I was examining the box more closely and i noticed a faint pencil marking of 456 on the top edge. Ohh well.
mrdbdigital
The TBS Archives
I've been using a Black & Decker Toaster oven for years to bake both audio and video tapes. I used an oven thermometer to make sure the toaster oven's thermostat was reliable at 130 degrees, and then placed a mark on the dial for future reference.
I've baked hundreds of reels of audio tape in this oven, and never had a single warped plastic reel or other problem.
Of note is the fact that Ampex 3/4" U-Matic video tape from the early 1980's has the same sticky-shed problems as their audio tape line. That old stuff really gums up the video cassette machine, but baking the tapes solves the problem with the video tapes just as it does with the audio tapes. I would assume from this experience that Ampex was using the same chemical formulation for the binder across both the audio and video product lines.
Just my experience. :yes:
Cadillac Kid
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If it is not a convection type toaster oven you will get hot spots and your tapes will be toast. I have never seen any recommendations for using a non-convection oven.
I use a food dehydrator and load the tape onto a metal reel.
Regarding U-Matics, I have some AGFAs that have SSS, but after baking them for 6 hours the problem was better, but still there. I think baking times for my Agfa U-Matic may have to be increased to 10 hours or so.
I use a food dehydrator and load the tape onto a metal reel.
Regarding U-Matics, I have some AGFAs that have SSS, but after baking them for 6 hours the problem was better, but still there. I think baking times for my Agfa U-Matic may have to be increased to 10 hours or so.
I am going to store my tapes in a vacuum pack when not in use for more than a few months to preserve them.
As long as your tapes aren't a formula known for breaking down, that shouldn't be necessary. Can't hurt, but it seems like overkill.
mrdbdigital
The TBS Archives
I had one Ampex U-Matic tape that I had to bake twice for about a 16 hour total time before it would play correctly. So far, I have not had to bake any Scotch, Sony, or Fuji U-Matics, only the Ampex ones. I don't have any experience with Agfa tapes.
jan_stevns
Super Member
I've never seen AGFA U-matic tape - but okay, a u-matic vcr isn't often seen either ..... (This was Betamax country
mrdbdigital
The TBS Archives
I've never seen AGFA U-matic tape - but okay, a u-matic vcr isn't often seen either ..... (This was Betamax country
Back in my days at TBS, we very rarely saw any Agfa U-Matic tape. We had a contract with Ampex for all our tape: 2", 1", Beta, U-Matic, and audio (456/7). Then, after several years we switched the contract to Sony, but eventually went back to Ampex due to a lot of problems with the Sony 1" stock. CNN was the heavy user of Beta tape; the rest of the company was 2", 1", and U-Matic (Turner Production and WTBS).
This was all around the early 1980's. We bought a huge amount of tape from Ampex, so much so that the Ampex tape salesman who had our account only had one other customer: First Baptist Church (Atlanta).
Employees were allowed to take tape for personal use from the recycled tape cabinet. Most of this tape was only one pass, so I took a lot of it for myself, since I had a U-Matic machine at home.
I've been digitizing my old tape collection onto my computer for the last year or so; virtually every Ampex U-Matic tape had to be baked to be able to play it.
dread31
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Yep. I used a food dehydrator, four hours, flip, another four hours, let it cool naturally to room temp and NEVER EVER let it go above 130 degrees.
The substrate is usually polyester based and has a low melting point. Ever had a tape get ruined just from sitting out in the sun? Yeah, that low. So, please be very carefull.:yes:
Regards,
Dave
