Amp for Yamaha NS-1000m
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SoCal Sam
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I've heard that combo.
Very good choice. In fact, Yamaha pictures the B-2 and NS-1000M together in the literature.
A very sweet combo indeed. :tresbon:
Before the B-2 I was driving them with a Yamaha M-4 and that sounded very very nice too but the B-2 does it better; the differences are subtle but noticeable none the less. :thmbsp:
Arkay
Lunatic Member
I'll second the B2 recommendation. An M2 sounds good, too.
The 101M sounds really good... but you have to be very careful not to accidentally crank the volume knob!
Actually, I think the NS-1000Ms are rather revealing and unforgiving of amps. Many amps, esp. SS amps, are a bit harsh. Many speakers (esp. British and "East Coast" types) roll off the ends and dull down things to where they still sound very nice and musical, but if you put those same amps on a very revealing set of speakers like the NS-1000Ms, you'll hear the harshness coming through clearly. I suspect a lot of people who say they don't like the NS-1000Ms say this because of their source amps, not the speakers. That's okay; it is overall synergy that makes a system sound "good", but it's something to be aware of.
Many of the higher-power tube amps also sound good with the NS-1000Ms. The speakers "open up" best with a little power, so low-powered SET amps and the like may not be so suitable, although they may be okay for lower-volume nearfield listening.
I think Yamaha speakers pair well with these, because, of course, they came from the same company; no doubt they were voiced similarly, to sound good together. But perhaps also because the "natural sound" philosophy of Yamaha is aimed at neutral or uncolored sound. If amps and speakers are both "neutral", then you should really hear what is on the recording. Of course, none of this is actually scientifically accurate, but neither is it nonsense; the engineers tried to "voice" their gear that way, just as other engineers in other companies sought their vision of what gear should "sound like".
A lot of the McIntosh amps will pair nicely with these speakers, too.
If you are going to use these speakers, make sure your amps are not putting out DC or clipping; the NS-1000M drivers can take some abuse, but not too much. The speakers were made in pairs (kept together as such from the factory to point-of-sale) with carefully-matched drivers. Blow one out, and unless you can find another factory-matched set of drivers, you may never get back the original sound quality after driver replacement.
The 101M sounds really good... but you have to be very careful not to accidentally crank the volume knob!
Actually, I think the NS-1000Ms are rather revealing and unforgiving of amps. Many amps, esp. SS amps, are a bit harsh. Many speakers (esp. British and "East Coast" types) roll off the ends and dull down things to where they still sound very nice and musical, but if you put those same amps on a very revealing set of speakers like the NS-1000Ms, you'll hear the harshness coming through clearly. I suspect a lot of people who say they don't like the NS-1000Ms say this because of their source amps, not the speakers. That's okay; it is overall synergy that makes a system sound "good", but it's something to be aware of.
Many of the higher-power tube amps also sound good with the NS-1000Ms. The speakers "open up" best with a little power, so low-powered SET amps and the like may not be so suitable, although they may be okay for lower-volume nearfield listening.
I think Yamaha speakers pair well with these, because, of course, they came from the same company; no doubt they were voiced similarly, to sound good together. But perhaps also because the "natural sound" philosophy of Yamaha is aimed at neutral or uncolored sound. If amps and speakers are both "neutral", then you should really hear what is on the recording. Of course, none of this is actually scientifically accurate, but neither is it nonsense; the engineers tried to "voice" their gear that way, just as other engineers in other companies sought their vision of what gear should "sound like".
A lot of the McIntosh amps will pair nicely with these speakers, too.
If you are going to use these speakers, make sure your amps are not putting out DC or clipping; the NS-1000M drivers can take some abuse, but not too much. The speakers were made in pairs (kept together as such from the factory to point-of-sale) with carefully-matched drivers. Blow one out, and unless you can find another factory-matched set of drivers, you may never get back the original sound quality after driver replacement.
SoCal Sam
Lunatic Member
I'll second the B2 recommendation. An M2 sounds good, too.
The 101M sounds really good... but you have to be very careful not to accidentally crank the volume knob!
Actually, I think the NS-1000Ms are rather revealing and unforgiving of amps. Many amps, esp. SS amps, are a bit harsh. Many speakers (esp. British and "East Coast" types) roll off the ends and dull down things to where they still sound very nice and musical, but if you put those same amps on a very revealing set of speakers like the NS-1000Ms, you'll hear the harshness coming through clearly. I suspect a lot of people who say they don't like the NS-1000Ms say this because of their source amps, not the speakers. That's okay; it is overall synergy that makes a system sound "good", but it's something to be aware of.
Many of the higher-power tube amps also sound good with the NS-1000Ms. The speakers "open up" best with a little power, so low-powered SET amps and the like may not be so suitable, although they may be okay for lower-volume nearfield listening.
I think Yamaha speakers pair well with these, because, of course, they came from the same company; no doubt they were voiced similarly, to sound good together. But perhaps also because the "natural sound" philosophy of Yamaha is aimed at neutral or uncolored sound. If amps and speakers are both "neutral", then you should really hear what is on the recording. Of course, none of this is actually scientifically accurate, but neither is it nonsense; the engineers tried to "voice" their gear that way, just as other engineers in other companies sought their vision of what gear should "sound like".
A lot of the McIntosh amps will pair nicely with these speakers, too.
If you are going to use these speakers, make sure your amps are not putting out DC or clipping; the NS-1000M drivers can take some abuse, but not too much. The speakers were made in pairs (kept together as such from the factory to point-of-sale) with carefully-matched drivers. Blow one out, and unless you can find another factory-matched set of drivers, you may never get back the original sound quality after driver replacement.
Arkay, in my L-09M / NS-1000M / Sony CDP-XA7ES, the weak link is often the source material. Indifferently recorded and mixed tracks sound terrible. However, great recordings sound even better. My MC-60's are more forgiving but that same sense of lost potential pervades.
{On a side note, I've had the pleasure of meeting a couple of music producers and they tell me that popular music is mixed to sound good on ear buds, which is the lowest common denominator. The business reason is a majority of buyers use this type of gear and are likely to download them in 128 mps form for play on portable playback devices. That is why the most popular "radio" favorites sound terrible on high-end gear but somewhat acceptable on car stereos and full range overhead speakers.}
I've replaced individual drivers before and have not noticed much difference. True, in an ideal world you would want factory matched everything.
Thank you
Hi, thanks for your comments. That is what I thought. But anyway I'm not at least now in the position to purchase for example B-2 or mcintosh. Cause those are so expensive.
I want to ask your opinions about following solutions:
Integrated:
Sansui AU-11000A
Marantz Model 1250
Sony TA-F808ES
Receivers:
Tandberg TR 2080
Yamaha CR-2020
And also pioneer spec-1+spec-2?
Any of those especially suitable for NS-1000m speakers?
Are most receivers incapable to drive those speakers?
best regards, laika-
Hi, thanks for your comments. That is what I thought. But anyway I'm not at least now in the position to purchase for example B-2 or mcintosh. Cause those are so expensive.
I want to ask your opinions about following solutions:
Integrated:
Sansui AU-11000A
Marantz Model 1250
Sony TA-F808ES
Receivers:
Tandberg TR 2080
Yamaha CR-2020
And also pioneer spec-1+spec-2?
Any of those especially suitable for NS-1000m speakers?
Are most receivers incapable to drive those speakers?
best regards, laika-
I had the original NS-1000's. I finally sold them as I like my Vandersteens just fine for the listening I do and was offered too much money for the Yammies to turn it down. My best combination for them was my CJ tube gear, a really fine match. The best SS amp I had at the time was a CA-1010 and the pairing sounded good, but better with the tubes.
I would imagine that either of the receivers you mentioned would sound very good with 1000m's. I'd be really curious of the match with the Tandberg as I've always been quite impressed with the sound of that receiver. I can't see why a good receiver with decent power would be in any way incapable of driving the Yammies, just you might get better ultimate results with other amplification possibilities. A less than disciplined SS amp will sound very bad with them, that's for sure.
Quadrocker
Active Member
A friend of mine that mostly prefers Jazz and classical has a Luxman L-530 hooked up to his Yamaha NS-1000's.
He started with a Lux L-100 and then traded up to the 530. He's really happy with the combo...and has built a couple of matching sub-woofer units for each speaker to slightly argument the bass response of the Yamaha's.
I lent him a Yamaha CA-800 Integrated, just for curiosities sake, to try on the NS-1000's but he preferred the sound of the Lux L-530.
He started with a Lux L-100 and then traded up to the 530. He's really happy with the combo...and has built a couple of matching sub-woofer units for each speaker to slightly argument the bass response of the Yamaha's.
I lent him a Yamaha CA-800 Integrated, just for curiosities sake, to try on the NS-1000's but he preferred the sound of the Lux L-530.
Where may I purchase a DIY MOSFET amplifier? Are they available online?
They sure are..:thmbsp:
(Post this for my father)
We will have Yamaha NS-1000M, but I have some questions
1. Is it worth to exchange my Yamaha NS-690III ?
2. I have lots of amp
Integrated Amps
- Denon DRA-455
- Sony TA-8650 (V-Fets)
- Marantz 1180 DC
- Marantz 1040
- Yamaha DSP-A1
Power Amps
- Victor PS-A152
Which should I choose for NS-1000M?
(Sorry, My english is poor....)
We will have Yamaha NS-1000M, but I have some questions
1. Is it worth to exchange my Yamaha NS-690III ?
2. I have lots of amp
Integrated Amps
- Denon DRA-455
- Sony TA-8650 (V-Fets)
- Marantz 1180 DC
- Marantz 1040
- Yamaha DSP-A1
Power Amps
- Victor PS-A152
Which should I choose for NS-1000M?
(Sorry, My english is poor....)
Audition them all..Then you choose..:thmbsp: VFET's:thmbsp:
Susurus
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...resulting in my virtual ignoring of current (gag) 'popular music'.
Vote: Justin Bieber or Esperanza Spalding?
Who will stand the test of time?
A fan before she got her Grammy
Back on topic: unless the room is huge or they are not placed well, I didn't need subs with NS-1000's--but I didn't choose them for synth prog bass. Have JBL 18" x 4 when the extreme bass must rumble.
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cornwallguy
Active Member
Harman Kardon Citation 16/A ..
make sure its the (A) not the original,
Powerful, great soundstage and very close to tubes
make sure its the (A) not the original,
Powerful, great soundstage and very close to tubes