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The $99 Pioneer speakers created by a $50K speaker designer

hesson11

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I went to Best Buy this weekend and, pretty much on a whim, picked up a pair of the $99.99 Pioneer SP-BS21-LR speakers designed by Andrew Jones, who also authored the $50K TAD speakers. Definitely a talented guy. I must say these little speakers are pretty remarkable.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/Speakers/Home+Theater+Speakers/SP-BS21-LR

I listen to classical music, and truth of timber is priority one to me. These little things do a surprisingly creditable job of capturing the sound of unamplified instruments. Violins sound like they are made out of wood, not aluminum, as many higher-priced speakers would have you believe. They also throw a very good soundstage.

Bass from the little 4-inchers is surprisingly good, too. I have the advantage of being able to position small speakers in a 50 Hz mode, which often augments bass without blowing it out of proportion. These speakers, in that position, get most of what I need, especially since I listen mainly to chamber music. But even orchestral basses are believable to a surprising degree. The double-bass and tympani in Stravinsky's "L'Historie du Soldat" are just about all there.

In fact, my only serious criticisms are a slightly sandpapery quality to high pitches of violins and trumpets as well as a definite hooty or cupped-hands coloration to the lower midrange. And they start to distort a bit at louder volumes than I normally listen to.

Oh, and at Best Buy this weekend, I got them for $79! A cool 20 percent off. Probably the best $79 I've ever spent on audio gear. I briefly owned the little Insignias that garnered so much attention a couple of years ago. I remember them sounding a bit artificial on natural, unamplified instruments. Not so with the Pioneers. Well done, Mr. Jones. I'd certainly recommend at least an audition of the Pioneers for anyone thinking of spending up to $400 or maybe even $500 on new speakers.

No, I am NOT claiming these will blow the doors off $1K speakers, but they are damn fine boxes and would be a good deal at three-to-five times the price (IMO).

Frame of reference: Speakers I own or have owned: Harbeth Compact 7-ES3, Magnepan 2.5/R, Spendor SP-3/1P, B&W 805 Matrix, PSB Stratus Mini, NHT SuperTwo and a few others.

-Bob
 
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That is a good find. Take them apart if you can or at least take of pictures of the drivers.
I'd be interested in the crossover design.
 
Nice little speakers but I'll have to stick with my $1.00 Infinity Quantum 3's, $100 Norman Lab Model 9's, $50 Heresy II's, $20 AR11's, $10 Dynaco A25's, $3 Polk Audio Monitor 10B's, etc. :D

But they are cool little speakers, that's for sure. Just too small for me.
 
I completely agree. I have a pair of these mated with my Pioneer sx-750, and they sound awesome!
 
That is a good find. Take them apart if you can or at least take of pictures of the drivers.
I'd be interested in the crossover design.

Great idea, but I don't usually take things apart. They so seldom go back together! As far as I can tell, the grille covers don't even come off. But if you're interested, the designer talks about some of his choices at the link below. He refers to a six-element crossover.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=19310769#post19310769

-Bob
 
Keep your eyes out on the bigger BS41-LR....I got mine for $100.00/pair (plus shipping) from J&R. I believe there's a review of these in the upcoming Stereophile magazine.

Hesson11....did you get a chance to audition the $200.00/pair floorstanding model?

Edit: Hey! Post 1,000!!
 
Do they sound better than the NHT Superzero's?
How do they get 75Hz out of them?

probably sacraficing efficiency....

lots of DIY guys have gotten ~50hz F3 out of 4" drivers in 5-10L enclosures using certain tang band, hivi, and Dayton audio woofers, but the systems are in the 80-82 dB/1w/1m sensitivity....
 
If that's the SP-FS51-LR you're referring to, I've heard them at Best Buy. For 200 bucks, they were pretty impressive.

That's the one I'm talking about. I am afraid to go and audition it....if they sound good to my ears, I may have to buy them :D
 
I've read about these...I need to hear them sometime. I am not a big fan of the styling. The designer's resume is pretty darn impressive.
 
I went to Best Buy this weekend and, pretty much on a whim, picked up a pair of the $99.99 Pioneer SP-BS21-LR speakers designed by Andrew Jones, who also authored the $50K TAD speakers. Definitely a talented guy. I must say these little speakers are pretty remarkable.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/Speakers/Home+Theater+Speakers/SP-BS21-LR

I listen to classical music, and truth of timber is priority one to me. These little things do a surprisingly creditable job of capturing the sound of unamplified instruments. Violins sound like they are made out of wood, not aluminum, as many higher-priced speakers would have you believe. They also throw a very good soundstage.

Bass from the little 4-inchers is surprisingly good, too. I have the advantage of being able to position small speakers in a 50 Hz mode, which often augments bass without blowing it out of proportion. These speakers, in that position, get most of what I need, especially since I listen mainly to chamber music. But even orchestral basses are believable to a surprising degree. The double-bass and tympani in Stravinsky's "L'Historie du Soldat" are just about all there.

In fact, my only serious criticisms are a slightly sandpapery quality to high pitches of violins and trumpets as well as a definite hooty or cupped-hands coloration to the lower midrange. And they start to distort a bit at louder volumes than I normally listen to.

Oh, and at Best Buy this weekend, I got them for $79! A cool 20 percent off. Probably the best $79 I've ever spent on audio gear. I briefly owned the little Insignias that garnered so much attention a couple of years ago. I remember them sounding a bit artificial on natural, unamplified instruments. Not so with the Pioneers. Well done, Mr. Jones. I'd certainly recommend at least an audition of the Pioneers for anyone thinking of spending up to $400 or maybe even $500 on new speakers.

No, I am NOT claiming these will blow the doors off $1K speakers, but they are damn fine boxes and would be a good deal at three-to-five times the price (IMO).

Frame of reference: Speakers I own or have owned: Harbeth Compact 7-ES3, Magnepan 2.5/R, Spendor SP-3/1P, B&W 805 Matrix, PSB Stratus Mini, NHT SuperTwo and a few others.

-Bob
If he makes $50K a year, he's really underpaid.:D
 
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