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PE 2020: Not perfect, but good enough!

dbxdx5

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Back in May I bought a working Perpetuum Ebner PE 2020 from CL for $95. Well, it was working. Pretty quickly, its fortysomething age became apparent. My experience working on turntables? Very little. Compounding matters is the fact that most people in the U.S. either don't know how to work on these or won't work on them, in part because of the Rube Goldberg complexity of the automatic functions: In addition to automatic start and stop, it also has an automatic record-sizing mechanism and a feature that will prevent the stylus from dropping when there isn't a record on the platter. Oh, and did I mention it can also be used as a changer? :no:

Here's one photo of the underside mid-restoration:

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But fate smiled on me. Thanks to the luck of finding a parts table and the incredibly generous help of two members of dual-board.de in Germany, I was eventually able to get the PE 2020 sorted out. These guys walked me through disassembling mechanisms that were frozen from hardened grease, guided me in fabricating and then installing not one but TWO steuerpimpels (for vertical and horizontal movement of the tonearm), helped me as I partially disassembled said tonearm and juggled the 14 loose 1 mm bearings that seemed like liquid mercury to these novice hands, and just generally exercised saintly patience when I had a meltdown (I threatened to throw the whole table in the trash). After a little last minute help with a wiring issue from Kevin at KAB and a new plinth made by AKer 4140, it's ready for public viewing. Please be gentle! You'll notice that the top isn't perfectly level--I need to find the right size shim to compensate for a little spring sag--and it could use a bit more TLC in cleaning up the aluminum. Oh, and I'm currently using a new Shure m97xe with a Jico SAS. The sound? Very, very good (in another thread I mentioned that it comes quite close to my Beogram 8002 with MMC2 and beats it in some areas). It's also very quiet during operation--I can't hear any rumble from the rim drive. :thmbsp: It also has a number of nice features for the time, including VTA adjustment on the headshell/cartridge carrier, anti-skating, four speeds, pitch adjustment, a meaty 7.1 lb zinc platter, and a "Four-pole induction motor SPM 4/15 with minimum stray field and central suspension and vibration dampers" (per the service manual).

Like I said in the subject line, it's not perfect, but it's good enough for me.

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A welcome blast from the past, I remember these PE TTs from my years in Germany. One of the German 'Big 3' with DUAL and Miracord.
 
Only drawback with these changers in the USA, is so few were imported here. And so few repairmen knew how to properly service the mechanism. Duals and to a lesser extent Miracords were out there in higher numbers. My favorite non-Thorens TDW 224 changer is a Miracord. But I love and have a soft spot for a P/E. And yours is beautiful indeed.
 
Only drawback with these changers in the USA, is so few were imported here. And so few repairmen knew how to properly service the mechanism. Duals and to a lesser extent Miracords were out there in higher numbers. My favorite non-Thorens TDW 224 changer is a Miracord. But I love and have a soft spot for a P/E. And yours is beautiful indeed.

Thanks Kent. :D You're right about so few making them over here. One thing I discovered along this journey is that the Fisher 501 is a rebadged PE 2020, though even the 501s are relatively scarce.
 
Beautiful TT - I just picked up a Telefunken LZ 2020 (at least that's what the only tag on it says). It looks exactly like yours except the base is wider to the right and it has a sliding door compartment to keep a spare cartridge and the tall changer spindle plus whatever other goodies you see fit to add. However, I haven't been able to find any docs or manuals for it and mine needs to be de-greased, lubed and set up after sitting 25 yrs! It is very heavy and there is no doubt of its German origins!

Would you have a copy or scan of the manual you could supply me? I'd be happy to pay for your time or services...

Thanks again - great table. Thanks for sharing!
John
 
Congratulations on your turntable.

It looks very nice.

I am sure it will make some very nice music for you.

I had one waaaay baaaak when I was in college. My fraternity brothers were quite impressed with it.

I ended up selling it to a fraternity brother that wanted it in a really big way.

I would like to find another one for for memories sake.
 
Beautiful TT - I just picked up a Telefunken LZ 2020 (at least that's what the only tag on it says). It looks exactly like yours except the base is wider to the right and it has a sliding door compartment to keep a spare cartridge and the tall changer spindle plus whatever other goodies you see fit to add. However, I haven't been able to find any docs or manuals for it and mine needs to be de-greased, lubed and set up after sitting 25 yrs! It is very heavy and there is no doubt of its German origins!

Would you have a copy or scan of the manual you could supply me? I'd be happy to pay for your time or services...

Thanks again - great table. Thanks for sharing!
John

TVE has the SM for the 2015, which is very similar, at least under the deck. The arm is different and some of the top trim, but the mechanism is close enough to work on it. Even with the SM, it's still a very complicated mechanism. :yes: :tears:

You can find it here...

http://www.vinylengine.com/library/perpetuum-ebner/pe-2012.shtml
 
love my PE2040!!!

....luckily for Bohhey,Fix my Dual" a Dual on steriods" he was able to fix my PE. It came to me in shambles(shipping and seller deception...?? )idler wheel Q'ing auto function etc... Bill came through for me... point is if you have Pe issues check with Bill, maybe he can help.... oh the parts table really helped too. The one major drawback is the parts, or lack ther of.:thmbsp:
 
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