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Build A PhonoClone 3 on a PCB Powered by Batteries

HypnoToad

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First up if you have read my reviews of my PhonoClone 3 phono stage you know how good I feel it is. IMO it's one of the best phono stages out there and I'm talking about stages costing thousands.

Here's the good part for DIY'ers you can easily build one of these moving coil only phono stages yourself and embarrass your friends high end phono stages, that's until they build one too :D.

For very little money you can hear your vinyl the way you never thought possible, enough chit chat for now here's how to do it in three easy steps.

Step 1. Source the PhonoClone 3 PCB's from RJM Audio [No Affiliation!], go here to do that:

http://phonoclone.com/pcb.html

And order these: 1 set Phonoclone 3 : XXX for a set of two boards. (rev. 35b)

Richards one hell of a guy and will look after you.

Step 2. Source the parts, here's a very good BOM for it from Digikey:

8 X 493-3476-ND / CAP FILM 1000PF 100VDC RADIAL - These are Polyester and work well, Wima Pulse Film polypropylene from Mouser are my favs.
2 X PF2105-ND / CAP FILM 1UF 250VDC RADIAL
2 X PF2104-ND CAP FILM 0.1UF 250VDC RADIAL - These should be soldered in parallel to the 1uf's above, they really open up the sound.
8 X P10294-ND / CAP ALUM 100UF 35V 20% RADIAL
8 X BC1084CT-ND / CAP .10UF 50V CERAMIC X7R 10% - These are optional, but I think they work well, solder them across the leads of the 100uf 35v electrolytics above.
4 X P2.20KCACT-ND / RES METAL FILM 2.20K OHM 1/4W 1%
2 X P110KCACT-ND / RES METAL FILM 110K OHM 1/4W 1%
5 X 768KXBK-ND / RES 768K OHM 1/4W 1% METAL FILM
2 X P47.0CACT-ND / RES METAL FILM 47.0 OHM 1/4W 1%
2 X P68.0KCACT-ND / RES METAL FILM 68.0K OHM 1/4W 1%
2 X OPA27GP-ND / IC OPAMP GP 8MHZ SGL LN 8DIP
2 X AD797ANZ-ND / IC OPAMP GP 110MHZ ULDIST 8DIP
4 X ED90105-ND / IC SOCKET 8PIN .300 SOLDER TAIL

Don't forget to work out the values of R1 and R2 and add them to the BOM above, you just need to know what the internal resistance of your cart is e.g. 20 ohms and the output e.g. 0.4mv. Get the values from the spec sheet that came with your cart or online, NEVER measure the resistance with a DMM as permanent damage can be done. And use this gain calculator located here to work them out:

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/analogue-source/57398-phonoclone-vsps-pcb-help-desk-105.html#post1726608

Thanks again Richard.

Step 3. Connect your batteries together like this:

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WARNING: Use a connector that can't be reversed for the batteries as well as a double pole switch that disconnects both the negative and positive leads at the same time or permanent damage can be done to the op amps and/or your MC cart.

Either a XLR connector or something like this:

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Then connect them to a switch which MUST be a double pole which disconnects both the negative and positive voltage at the same time, and a LED then the outputs to the points I have marked on the PCB's. You have your +, Gnd, - inputs. Each PCB is one channel so you will have to run the wires to each board.

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Leave out the components in the red box as they are the x-reg components and not needed if you are using batteries.

Later on if you wish to install the x-reg components and run it from the mains using a separate transformer and bridge rectifiers you can do so, but always get an electrician to wire it up if you are unsure of working with mains voltages.

As for Op Amps, OPA27GP's are good in the input stages and AD797's turn it into a killer unit in the output stages. Thanks to Jim Reeves experimenting.

Get a nice case, LED, switch, RCA connectors and wires and your done.

Now "everybody" can sit back and enjoy the music the way it was intended.:thmbsp:
 
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Hmmm, very interesting Mr Toad. I don't have any LOMCs right now but one of these days ... based on my great satisfaction with the CNC MM phono stage I built from your PCB I will likely give this one a whirl someday.
 
HypnoToady , i've been following your phono pre threads for quite awhile , but always have so many things on my plate . however hell , what's one more ;)

much appreciate your contributions to the preamp community .

just ordered the boards .

cheers Woody
 
Hi Phillip,

I did my first ever electronics project under your guidance.As you know I built CNC and it beats all MM phono pres I have heard.Your posts on Phono stages are very good and simple enough to understand less skilled person like me.I will surely build Phonoclone once I have a LOMC.

Thanks again
Regards,
Sachin
 
Hey Toad, got a question for you about your choice of:
2 X PF2105-ND / CAP FILM 1UF 250VDC RADIAL
2 X PF2104-ND CAP FILM 0.1UF 250VDC RADIAL

Is it your intention to drop these in C3? If so, why the deviation from the 2.2uf specified in the schematic? (These two in parrallel is just 1.1 if I'm right)
 
Hey Toad, got a question for you about your choice of:
2 X PF2105-ND / CAP FILM 1UF 250VDC RADIAL
2 X PF2104-ND CAP FILM 0.1UF 250VDC RADIAL

Is it your intention to drop these in C3? If so, why the deviation from the 2.2uf specified in the schematic? (These two in parrallel is just 1.1 if I'm right)

They are DC blocking caps and the value is not critical, the 0.1uf bypass caps really open up the sound IMO and it costs way less using these than going all out using boutique axial caps such as V-caps that cost a fortune.

Another thing, you can use Wima Pulse film 1nf caps instead of the Nichicon Polyester 1nf's, the polyesters are more revealing but can be a little harsh in some systems, the Wima's are smoother and slightly more laid back.

It's all Yin and Yang.
 
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I'm not sure if this is allowed (if it isn't, please delete). If someone is building one of these and would be willing to build an extra one I would be willing to pay for my supplies and a fee for your time. I have no DIY skills and would love to have one of these. Buying a phonocube for $2,750 is WAY out of my budget. Also seems to be a lack of budget phono stages that work with low output cartridges.
 
It is an outstanding phono pre. Listening now to my DL-301 MKII. I will build another one to try with my Ortofon MC10.

I recommend OPA134A for the op-amps. Single channel versions of the Burr Brown OPA2134A's. Nice improvement from the OPA27's. :thmbsp:

I think this pre sounds better than a Bottlehead Seduction. There. I said it...
 
Here it is in my 99c Cuban cigar box. I plan to put it in a nice case with my optimized Bugle and have a both a MM and LOMC pre in the one box.

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Thanks for the idea. Now I have something I can put my phono preamp in. A buddy gave me two cool looking wooden cigar boxes.

Oh, wait a second, I liked the cardboard box. It did look like it was on its last leg.
 
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Thanks for the idea. Now I have something I can put my phono preamp in. A buddy gave me two cool looking wooden cigar boxes.

Oh, wait a second, I liked the cardboard box. It did look like it was on its last leg.

You are quite welcome. While the cardboard tweeter box did make quite the fashion statement it was definitely not durable. It was quietly retired totherecycle bin with full honors. And you know what? Now that the COC pre resides in wood box the wires have stopped breaking! :scratch2:
 
You know you are going to push up the prices of old cigar boxes.:D

People will be throwing the cigars away just to get the box.
 
This is a current, wooden cigar box. I think the price of the old style cardboard boxes has already gone crazy, just my guess. But I think a nice wooden box like Fasterdamnit's above is a real "sleeper" of a place to hide our kits. I could put both the CNC and LO/MC phono preamps there and swap between them as needed.
 
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How To Get Boards

I signed up in the thread for a board, maybe two if they are not too $$.
Should I PM you about that?

There is a link in the first post where you buy a pair of boards from the manufacturer. $40 for the pair plus shipping.
 
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