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Festoons?

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Hi,
I'm looking for sources for festoon lighting for the tube amp deep cleaning tutorial.
Who do you use?
What do you have to order for the 500-B compared to the 500-C (the B festoons are narrower in diameter, correct?
Who do you use for LED festoons? How can they be contacted?
Links?

Personally, I like the LED festoons. The lighting distributes more evenly across the dial glass.

I've lost my sources.
Thanks,
Don
 
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Hi,
I'm looking for sources for festoon lighting for the tube amp deep cleaning tutorial.
Who do you use?
What do you have to order for the 500-B compared to the 500-C (the B festoons are narrower in diameter, correct?
Who do you use for LED festoons? How can they be contacted?
Links?

Personally, I like the LED festoons. The lighting distributes more evenly across the dial glass.

I've lost my sources.
Thanks,
Don

I can't find my original post with the how to details, but I finally settled on just fabricating my own from #1847s

Work/fit/illuminate/disperse light just as well as the originals, if not better

I just wasn't going to pay $2.50 and up for a cheap ass chinese fuse type lamp that was "close enough" when I could make a better than "close enough" myself for pennies and a little time

I've had my fill of those chinese lamps trying to trick out Marantz dials

The #1847 lamp is good for 5000 hours or more and is readily available

I had some NOS U.S.A. made G.E.s I picked up for FREE at my auto parts supplier (not much demand now days for 6V bulbs in the auto trade)

The post is around here somewhere

Works first class

Thomas
 
Found the Old Post

I took 1847s and soldered about 2"s of solid hookup wire to the center contact, then roughly 1/4" of 9/32" brass tubing to the ground base of the bulb. The solder will flow just like it does when soldering plumbing, USE FLUX! Use the old Fisher festoon as your template, but split the difference so that both brass pieces you cut are the SAME length to fit the clips well. Where I bent the wire to make it exit the tubing I put a little shrink wrap just for insurance, shove it down tight to cover the center contact well as you shrink it, the bend holds it there. Bend that solid core wire 180 degrees so it runs back down the length of your little assembly. Hold your bulb with it's new base and the second piece of brass tubing (at the top of the bulb obviously) all together in a wooden vise and solder the wire to it. I also made note of both bulb's filament orientation so that I would have equal intensity coming from both sides. This was easy to maintain as I had NOS G.E.s and the filaments were in the same spots with both. I used the little retaining pins on the base as my visual reference.
This sounds like a lot of effort but it's not. Harder for me to type this than to make up the damn lamps!
After fabricating a pair (the planning, which is the real time expenditure with most things) I could whip 'em out now on demand.

Painted the envelope except where it lined up with the dial's edge and was done (just to be thorough).
Fit it in the slot and tweaked it so the wire lays flush along the edge of the glass. They fit perfectly and look like a manufactured product for this purpose if you didn't know any better. I'm generally not into rigging things, but with this I am 100% satisfied with the outcome.
Used brand name 3/8"W x 3/16"T Frost King weather strip from the 99 Cent store to do my dial taping. (don't know how they get it and sell it so cheap and it's FRESH, I know because I did a re-do to clean a second time and it took me an hour to get all the sticky **** off, a first for me with this stuff, usually it's the other way around. The same 17' long roll's around $3 bucks everywhere else.

The beauty of it is (I think), the 1847 only draws .15mA @ 6.3V and runs very cool; it is rated as a 1 watt bulb. If you want brighter there are many bayonet types in this family and size. A #47 will work fine too and is a little brighter. They are dirt cheap, readily available and the piece of brass tubing is only $2 dollars at ACE (about 11"s or so, give or take). That's enough to make dial lamps for a long time.

My apologies to all you lamp vendors out there if I have offended thee, but I just have a thing for NOT paying good money for crap from china if I can help it (and I realize that it is not your fault) and I can make it myself with good quality results, both functionally and aesthetically.

No harm intended.

Thomas
 
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eBay seller 2930luo has 6mm X 45 mm 7 volt incandescent festoons.

eBay seller qua-co has LED lamps in various sizes and colors.

I haven't tried either of these guys.

Grainger has the #1847s in a 10-pack for $8, although that style bulb would be my last choice for a DIY solution.
 
My Sansui 3000A used festoon bulbs for the dial glass. I built series-parallel LED replacements and soldered the leads directly to the terminals. I might replace them with some brighter LEDs at some point, but they look quite nice as-is.
 
Best part about LEDs is no heat. I may order some in white and green just for giggles to see how I like them.
 
I have some blue LEDs an AKer made for me. I bought two pairs.
He seems to be off the list now. I think he used to sell them on Ebay at one time and they came out of Colorado.

Anyhoo those blue ones were very cool looking. I felt that they sold a 500-C to an ex-Marantz SS guy.

I've seen tricks like taking shorter festoons and soldering on the metal end caps of your typical fuse after breaking out the glass. I had to do that on a 500-B I fixed once. But I like plug n' play.
 
eBay seller 2930luo has 6mm X 45 mm 7 volt incandescent festoons.

eBay seller qua-co has LED lamps in various sizes and colors.

I haven't tried either of these guys.

Grainger has the #1847s in a 10-pack for $8, although that style bulb would be my last choice for a DIY solution.

And why is that?

Don't let the looks fool you; try it it, you might like it.

Thomas
 
Just my own personal feelings, nothing more. I prefer to go as reasonably close to original as possible. I have no doubt that a bayonet-base bulb will work just fine.
 
Thomas; I just can't get this wrapped around my head. Do you have a pic of an assembled unit????

Thanks
Larry



I took 1847s and soldered about 2"s of solid hookup wire to the center contact, then roughly 1/4" of 9/32" brass tubing to the ground base of the bulb. The solder will flow just like it does when soldering plumbing, USE FLUX! Use the old Fisher festoon as your template, but split the difference so that both brass pieces you cut are the SAME length to fit the clips well. Where I bent the wire to make it exit the tubing I put a little shrink wrap just for insurance, shove it down tight to cover the center contact well as you shrink it, the bend holds it there. Bend that solid core wire 180 degrees so it runs back down the length of your little assembly. Hold your bulb with it's new base and the second piece of brass tubing (at the top of the bulb obviously) all together in a wooden vise and solder the wire to it. I also made note of both bulb's filament orientation so that I would have equal intensity coming from both sides. This was easy to maintain as I had NOS G.E.s and the filaments were in the same spots with both. I used the little retaining pins on the base as my visual reference.
This sounds like a lot of effort but it's not. Harder for me to type this than to make up the damn lamps!
After fabricating a pair (the planning, which is the real time expenditure with most things) I could whip 'em out now on demand.

Painted the envelope except where it lined up with the dial's edge and was done (just to be thorough).
Fit it in the slot and tweaked it so the wire lay flush along the edge of the glass. They fit perfectly and look like a manufactured product for this purpose if you didn't know any better. I'm generally not into rigging things, but with this I am 100% satisfied with the outcome.
Used brand name 3/8"W x 3/16"T Frost King weather strip from the 99 Cent store to do my dial taping. (don't know how they get it and sell it so cheap and it's FRESH, I know because I did a re-do to clean a second time and it took me an hour to get all the sticky **** off, a first for me with this stuff, usually it's the other way around. The same 17' long roll's around $3 bucks everywhere else.

The beauty of it is (I think), the 1847 only draws .15mA @ 6.3V and runs very cool; it is rated as a 1 watt bulb. If you want brighter there are many bayonet types in this family and size. A #47 will work fine too and is a little brighter. They are dirt cheap, readily available and the piece of brass tubing is only $2 dollars at ACE (about 11"s or so, give or take). That's enough to make dial lamps for a long time.

My apologies to all you lamp vendors out there if I have offended thee, but I just have a thing for NOT paying good money for crap from china if I can help it (and I realize that it is not your fault) and I can make it myself with good quality results, both functionally and aesthetically.

No harm intended.

Thomas
 
Thomas; I just can't get this wrapped around my head. Do you have a pic of an assembled unit????

Thanks
Larry

They're buttoned up in the receiver right now Larry

I'll do you one better though; next time I have the iron hot, I'll make you one to try out. PM me a mailing address.

Thomas
 
Next time you have the iron hot, just take a pic. I can take it from there.

Larry
 
eBay seller 2930luo has 6mm X 45 mm 7 volt incandescent festoons.

eBay seller qua-co has LED lamps in various sizes and colors.

I haven't tried either of these guys.

Grainger has the #1847s in a 10-pack for $8, although that style bulb would be my last choice for a DIY solution.

There was another seller a few months ago,that had NOS Ford 6V headlamp bulbs,in the original packages.
 
I have some blue LEDs an AKer made for me. I bought two pairs.
He seems to be off the list now. I think he used to sell them on Ebay at one time and they came out of Colorado.

Anyhoo those blue ones were very cool looking. I felt that they sold a 500-C to an ex-Marantz SS guy.

I've seen tricks like taking shorter festoons and soldering on the metal end caps of your typical fuse after breaking out the glass. I had to do that on a 500-B I fixed once. But I like plug n' play.

LED festoons are still available, custom made for the application, from former AK member whsh93a. I just had a set made for my Fisher 400, and they are perfect. Quick turn around, even with being custom made. Great communication. Email contact here: deh12110@yahoo.com
 
LED festoons are still available, custom made for the application, from former AK member whsh93a. I just had a set made for my Fisher 400, and they are perfect. Quick turn around, even with being custom made. Great communication. Email contact here: deh12110@yahoo.com

The prices for those ready made LED festoons are ABSURD, a total rip for the sake of "convenience".

Especially when a near perfect (and closer to "authentic") alternative is available for about a dollar and a wee bit of effort.

My opinion.

Thomas
 
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The prices for those ready made LED festoons are ABSURD, a total rip for the sake on "connivance".

Especially when a near perfect (and closer to "authentic") alternative is available for about a dollar and a wee bit of effort.

My opinion.

Thomas

Yep, they are expensive. However, you can actually tell the receiver is on with a few lights on in the room as well...
 
Yep, they are expensive. However, you can actually tell the receiver is on with a few lights on in the room as well...

Ha ha ha.........hahahahahahah!

Actually, I like to operate my Fisher blindfolded :D

That way I'm not distracted from the music!

Thomas
 
Festoons

I have to giggle a little at the name of these lights - sounds like a celebratory Warner Brothers cartoon for the holidays....

Looks like Wiki Needs some updating!

Festoons
 
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