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JVC QL-FX5 vrs Technics SL-Q33

Kingbleu

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I know this all boils down to personal taste and how they sound to me but I would like some opinions on what you guys think. I'm using a audio technica 8008 needle. From what I have read the Technics is just a basic turntable but the JVC doesn't have any info on it. Also if anyone has access to the specs how do the two tables compare.

JVC QL-FX5 VRS Technics SL-Q33
 
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From what I have read the Technics is just a basic turntable but the JVC doesn't have any info on it. Also if anyone has access to the specs how do the two tables compare.

JVC QL-FX5 VRS Technics SL-Q33

I agree to your point that among the reasonably better tables, it boils down to some personal taste but strongly disagree that Technics is a basic tuntable. Its one of the best made turntables, to say the least. A well maintaned Technics can outlast even human lives & I am not over exaggerating it when I say that they were built like 'tanks' & with intention to last. Frankly speaking, how many tables you see today that weigh 10-12 kgs? & its not only about Technics, most vintage tables are a class act like the Pioneers, Sony, Thorens, etc. Technics had its own cult following & 1200s are one of the most sought after TTs by audiophiles today.
Technics SL-Q33 that you want the specs, is a Quartz locked 33/45 RPM machine. It features fully automatic operation like auto-start, auto stop, auto-return & repeat play just at the touch of a button. It is simple to set up & operate. Has 0-2.5 gms tracking weight adjustment with 0-3 values of anti-skating controls. This system uses an optical (infra-red) disk sizing system which means that it detects the size of records with infra red lights under its platter. There is a infra red receptor post near the tonearm which detects infra red signals. Has the famous Technics S arm which has superb inner groves tracking ability with standard 1/2 inch cart. mounts. Its wow is super minimum at 0.025% and has a signal to noise ration of -78db..now these are some serious numbers and it beats many TTs much above its class in this aspect. It weighs about 8 Kgs & this speaks about its solid build. What else can you ask from a Turntable? The JVC you mentioned looks 'rare' to me, unable to find any specs...sorry...but the Technics is fantastic, no doubt.

Regards.
 
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The JVC you mention qould be the QL-5 (see here), the QL-A5 (Here) or the QL-Y5F (here).

Of those, the QL-A5 is probably comparable to the Technics. The QL-5 and the QL-Y5F are, IMHO of course, better. Especially the arm on the QL-Y5F is a piece of art. However try to find out which JVC it is, perhaps it is none of the above. Do you have pics of it?
 
Technics SL-Q33 is a quartz lock direct drive fully automatic (auto start and auto return) turntable, probably from the late-1970’s/early 1980’s. It’s from the consumer-level turntables Technics made, and it’s several steps up from the bottom – the lowest levels were belt drive turntables, then there were semi-auto and fully-auto direct drives, then a semi-auto quartz lock direct drive, and this one was the next level up (about 7 from the bottom, in their huge range). It has a plastic base, but it’s not as lightweight as some of their plastic turntables, and it should be capable of excellent performance.

Specifications:
Wow and flutter: 0.025% WRMS or ±0.035% peak weighted (both using a test record) or 0.012% WRMS measuring directly from the motor frequency generator, but not playing a record, so it just relates to the platter, but not the tonearm and cartridge. The first two figures are more relevant to the real world, but the last measurement was used by some other companies, including Denon and Sansui (among others), mainly because it looks more impressive! Sony, Technics and JVC were always a bit more honest, and gave both figures (FG measured figure, and test record figure).

Rumble: -56dB unweighted or -78dB weighted
Tonearm: universal s-shaped, medium weight with detachable headshell
Total Weight: 7.3kg

Manuals are available for download free of charge from here http://www.vinylengine.com/library/technics/sl-q33.shtml .

The JVC QL-FX5 is also a quartz locked direct drive fully automatic turntable – no surprise there, as JVC invented the quartz locked turntable. I doubt there’d be much difference (probably none) in wow and flutter or rumble specifications – JVC was majority owned by Matsushita, the Technics parent company, when they were built, so their turntables were fairly similar. If anything, JVC was slightly ahead in some areas on their best consumer turntables, which had fully active electronic tonearms. However this is (I think) one of their cheaper models – probably still very good, but with a lighter plastic (by the look of it) base, and a standard non-electronic tonearm.

I can’t find much info on it, but there are several service manuals for it for sale on Ebay, so you can see what it looks like. There were two colours – the silver QL-FX5, and a black QL-FX5B. Unfortunately the manual sellers don’t show the specifications pages – grrrr! It has a lightweight straight tonearm from the picture, and was from the mid-1980’s, as the service manual was printed in 1985. I couldn’t find it in my listing of models sold in Australia in 1985, but not all models were sold here.

According to the front page of the manual, there were two models of the QL-FX5/QL-FX5B, the Type A, which had a universal straight tonearm (half-inch mount) with a removable ADC-type headshell (from the exploded view picture), and the Type B, which had an “integrated tonearm”. That may mean a p-mount tonearm, and as a sister company of Technics, JVC also used them a lot, or it may be one of JVC’s strange tonearms with a proprietary cartridge that can’t be removed from the arm. That’s all I could find about it.

So in essence, they are similar turntables – fully automatic quartz lock direct drives, but the JVC is from a few years later, and has a slightly better straight half-inch mount tonearm, or (possibly) a p-mount tonearm. Toss a coin – there won’t be much difference between them!
 
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A bit more info I discovered about the Technics SL-Q33 - like the JVC, there were two colours, silver and black. The silver one was designated SL-Q33, while the black one was SL-Q33K, but was only available in Europe.
 
First of all thank you everyone for replying. Unfortunately I'm a retard and the technics is not SL-Q33 it is actually SL-QD33 The SL-QD33 has a straight tone arm. Well I spent all morning switching back and forth between the two playing a record Crosby Stills Nash and Young.
The JVC sounds great deep full sounds but the Technics was just more clear less distortion. The JVC has the tones and pitches down but its just a little fuzzy. The technics lacks the deep tones but is crystal clear. Therefore I prefer the technics.
 
There he goes....ETI 5000 has did it very nicely...except for a small correction...the Technics SL-Q33 did not have a plastic base...it had a cast- metal base & just as he said, weighed quite something. A pretty nice turntable.
Also, while comparing sounds of TTs, along with the TT itself, i would also take into account the cartridge on its tonearm.

Regards,
Saket
 
Unfortunately I'm a retard and the technics is not SL-Q33 it is actually SL-QD33 The SL-QD33 has a straight tone arm. Well I spent all morning switching back and forth between the two playing a record Crosby Stills Nash and Young.
The JVC sounds great deep full sounds but the Technics was just more clear less distortion. The JVC has the tones and pitches down but its just a little fuzzy. The technics lacks the deep tones but is crystal clear. Therefore I prefer the technics.

Technical specifications for the SL-QD33 exactly the same as the QL-33, except for the following:

Weight: 4.5kg (I think this definitely has a plastic base:D)
Tonearm: lightweight straight tonearm with p-mount cartridge
Produced 1986-96

Most of the other comments should apply, and it would have been from about the same place in Technics' range (just below halfway up the range). It was several generations later than the SL-Q33. User manual available from here http://www.vinylengine.com/library/technics/sl-qd33.shtml .

Any great difference in sound quality between the JVC and Technics is most likely due to the cartridge or stylus fitted to each, or possibly stylus wear. Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young are worth listening to all day.:thmbsp:
 
Weight: 4.5kg (I think this definitely has a plastic base:D)

Good one ETI...

SL-QD33 is again a nice TT, just one downside that you are limited with choosing among only P-mount carts available. With 1/2 inchers, you really would be really well off with so many options to choose from.
BTW, its a very nicely 'teemed' setup...just wanted to know if you purposely have crowded that set up or may be you would like it cleaner!
 
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