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Rescued Phillips

Unican_Eric

Unican_Eric

Pioneerious Collecticus
I made a donation to a thrift store and while bringing my stuff in I saw this little fellow sitting in the corner.
I asked him when he was going to put it on the sheft and he told me it was going to the garbage, he had no way to test it because of the weird connectors and speaker terminals. So he cut off the cord and was going to make a trash dump later.
I told him I was a collector of old audio, he said if you want it take it. A gift for my donation.

My question is could this be adapted to a set of rca inputs and a normal speaker terminal?

I found this link on the net for this little fellow and the author seems not to think much of it.
http://www.tube-classics.de/TC/GermanTubeHifi/Integamps/Philips 9016/AG9016.htm

Still its his opinion and it would be my first tube find so I would like to get it up and running. Thoughts? Worth the work?
 

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that's such a cute and nice looking amp :D i love how the circuits are laid out clean with a lot of room inside.

changing the connectors to standard ways is not that hard. all you ahve to do is remove the connectors, solder the wires to the standard rca and speaker terminals, and you're done.

as for the opinion of the person in that link, he sounds like he knows what he's talking about with the schematic and all, but i'm not sure if he has experience in vintage amps. i heard many good things about el95 tubes. it's a low powered beam output tube. not the fancy expensive tube, but many other european amps from telefunken and siemens used the same output tube.

change out all those bad old caps and check the resistors. change that selenium rectifier as well. it's meant to be hooked up to a very efficient speakers for a small space. i'm pretty sure it'll sound very good once restored, and have all the charms of tube amp.
 
Thanks for the replies guys.
I called my stereo tech, he loves working with tubes.
He said bring it by tonight and he will take a look at it, he said from my description he thinks he can get it up and runing.

I am anxious to get it there....
 
Unican_Eric said:
I made a donation to a thrift store and while bringing my stuff in I saw this little fellow sitting in the corner.
I asked him when he was going to put it on the sheft and he told me it was going to the garbage, he had no way to test it because of the weird connectors and speaker terminals. So he cut off the cord and was going to make a trash dump later.
I told him I was a collector of old audio, he said if you want it take it. A gift for my donation.

My question is could this be adapted to a set of rca inputs and a normal speaker terminal?

I found this link on the net for this little fellow and the author seems not to think much of it.
http://www.tube-classics.de/TC/GermanTubeHifi/Integamps/Philips 9016/AG9016.htm

Still its his opinion and it would be my first tube find so I would like to get it up and running. Thoughts? Worth the work?
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Follow the recommendations in the link ( i.e. cut the cap across the OT )
then you should have a decent desktop amp.
 
gogofast said:
as for the opinion of the person in that link, he sounds like he knows what he's talking about with the schematic and all, but i'm not sure if he has experience in vintage amps. i heard many good things about el95 tubes. it's a low powered beam output tube. not the fancy expensive tube, but many other european amps from telefunken and siemens used the same output tube.
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Not to contradict you but looking on his site, it looks he has a lot of experience with vintage german tubes devices...
 
inputs should be no problem. You need an RCA to DIN cable.


and its a quibbling point, but that Phillps is Dutch, not German. Extremely similar designs for the most part, unless you happen to run into one of their Bi-Ampli setups with the 800 ohm speakers and no output transformer. That is sort of uniquely Phillips.
 
Hello after a recap these small amps are nice .
I am using one (desktop combined with diy nearfield speakers).

Regards F.
 
This is the coolest thing I have ever seen. I think it's worthy of a full blown strip and rebuild. Hell, I'd chrome the chassis.:smoke:

What's the model number, I can't quite make it out in the pic.
 
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jaymanaa said:
What's the model number, I can't quite make it out in the pic.
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Its an AG 9016.

BTW its at the techs place and hes going to fix it up for me, told him to put a set of rca inputs on it as well as a regular set of speaker terminals. Change any bad caps and such, as well as a good deoxit and lube.

Will get back to you with new pics and a test run when shes back.
 
The 6HU8 (ELL80) is the equivalent of 2 EL-95's in a single envelope. Good for 6-8 W. Decent tube. FISHER used them as driver tubes in their Hybrid amps in 64-66.

That Phillips should sound pretty good when finished.
 
With proper output transformers, an ELL80 sounds pretty doggone good. I've got a Fisher chassis out of a Philharmonic console that rocks a pair of them and it sounds quite nice. Got a lot more rock and roll than you might expect for that power level. I'd have figured it for a solid 12-15 watts. They're relatively tough too as I understand it. Mine has a set of non-original ITT branded tubes with a Telefunken diamond on the bottom and I picked up a pair of Fisher branded Seimens tubes for spares. Both sets test above 100%.
 
My C.E. VIII and Futura VI both are Hybrids. Finals are 4 transistor in the C.E. and 8 in the Futura, for 50 and 75W IHF. And Germaniums at that! The Electra is a bit weak in the Bass, but the Futura will rattle windows, and get the floor to vibrating. ITT's in the C.E. and Zenith branded in the Futura. Had contemplated making an adapter to use 2 EL-95's vs. 6HU8. But the price of the EL-95's put it off at the time! When they DO go, I'll just throw in a 481 in the CE and a 690A in the Futura.

Larry
 
I'd not start changing out the inputs and outputs. This is actually a collector's piece and you'll be killing the collector premium value. Have the tech map the caps and desolder, not cut the old ones out and save them with the, applied so, the worked can be reversed.

Great save and unit looks to be in excellent physical condition outside and inside.
 
Funny thing, there's one on epray right now claiming original tubes. The unit was made in Holland and they used Jap tubes? I'm calling BS on that, do your tubes say where they were made?
 
The few I have seen had Telefunken or Philips labeled tunes. If it has Japanese tubes, I suspect it was retubed.
 
Brian said:
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If it has Japanese tubes, I suspect it was retubed.
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What! Do you actually think that someone would take out original (most likely good) tubes and replace them with something else? I will look at the auction in a few moments.

Seriously, look at some of the auctions of HH Scott integrated amplifiers. Then check the seller's other live or previous auctions. Hmmmm. Scott amps came with Telefunken 12AX7 tubes in the 60s (early 299s had "Scott" branded American made 12AX7s) and Mullard or Amperex GZ34 rectifiers. Later ones had "Scott" labeled 5AR4s made by GE. See if that seller sold those tubes in an earlier (or later) auction. However, he/she is certainly entitled to do whatever he/she wants as long as there is no deceit.
 
Your theory is possible. Just is likely that at some point an owner simply decided to change out all the tubes as one or more went bad. Gotta remember, not everyone who bought their stuff in the '50s knew in 2013 their tubes would be worth as much as the unit.

It was not unusual to do wholesale tube replacements every two to five years per owners instructions.
 
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