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Fried Super Monitors for Sale.

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Wish I had room for these, they're nice, closeby and wide ! But, I don't have room for them. Curious anyway about specs... Anyone know - frequency response, power handling range in watts, ohms impedence, efficiency in db or SPL, size of the drivers, original retail price and weight of sub-cabinet ? Just wondering. Look wonderful for the right room. Also wonder if anyone heard these compared to IMF RSPM MK IV ?, which may be in the ballpark for similar likes. IMF and Fried fan here.
 
Wish I had room for these, they're nice, closeby and wide ! But, I don't have room for them. Curious anyway about specs... Anyone know - frequency response, power handling range in watts, ohms impedence, efficiency in db or SPL, size of the drivers, original retail price and weight of sub-cabinet ? Just wondering. Look wonderful for the right room. Also wonder if anyone heard these compared to IMF RSPM MK IV ?, which may be in the ballpark for similar likes. IMF and Fried fan here.

I can give you some pretty good guesses, as I built something very similar back then, and have heard the model H, which is very similar as well. As far as frequency response, 14 Hz or so to beyond audibility. I'm pretty sure those are Audax mid/woofers, probably 5", woofer 12", 3/4 to 1" tweeter. Sensitivity around 87 to 90 dB, max spl around 100 to 105 dB. Power handling is average. Bud Fried, who I met a few times, used to say something like, "Making a driver you can't blow up is like making a fender you can't dent. It's possible, but you wouldn't want to do it." As long as you're careful and don't require pain threshold levels, you will be fine.

These will be hard to sell because of their size and very limited market. I would make an offer of around $800 and see what happens. These are absolutely fabulous speakers, and will go deeper than almost anything out there, and will be smooth and accurate throughout their range. You couldn't build them for yourself for anywhere near $800. No foam surrounds to worry about either. Go for it and report back.
 
Magnate, Thank You kindly for the specs and writing it here. I honestly don't have the room and am not in the market, but your info will help others who are interested buyers. We can see how some of the period speakers chose width for cabinet volume as instead now mostly seeing depth to achieve that volume , and possibly space-saving in the room. Still, some fantastic speakers such as these, Infinity and others had dimensions like this. $800 sounds right and for someone who has the space, what a great set. I have the Fried Model R series I, IMF RSPM MK IV and Super Compact II, so no more room here. Curiosity sparked my questions and it looks like these would be a great comparison to the RSPM sound-wise. Fried was made near me here in PA, and although I only had one conversation with Bud, there are other enthusiasts in the area, a small hotbed for Fried. They distributed all around here to the best shops, along with IMF too, and for Fried shipping was easy around the Philly area, close to manufacturing.

I think they will sell quickly mostly because of this area, maybe in 2 weeks time, to a Fried enthusiast like ourselves. They hopefully can use the info you provided, and Thank you for filling me in. We know they'll go to the right person, and maybe we'll hear here about the set here on AK. These must sound sensational ! That must have been wonderful to hear the large Fried set you spoke of that you have had.
 
I can give you some pretty good guesses, as I built something very similar back then, and have heard the model H, which is very similar as well. As far as frequency response, 14 Hz or so to beyond audibility. I'm pretty sure those are Audax mid/woofers, probably 5", woofer 12", 3/4 to 1" tweeter. Sensitivity around 87 to 90 dB, max spl around 100 to 105 dB. Power handling is average. Bud Fried, who I met a few times, used to say something like, "Making a driver you can't blow up is like making a fender you can't dent. It's possible, but you wouldn't want to do it." As long as you're careful and don't require pain threshold levels, you will be fine.
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Fried never used any Audax drivers in the Fried Products speaker line. :)
I have stated many times what drivers he used in other threads in his various models..

There is a Sonkit brochure showing the Super Monitors in this link.

https://sites.google.com/site/mpbarneyspeakers/friedbiispeakers

It requires at least a 8ohm 200 watt per channel amp to drive this model fairly loud.

I have built many pairs of the various C and O models.
My son has a pair of the C satellites still in use.

The Fried product brochures that were on the IMF website stated a max spl of 117 db for this model. It is unfortunate that the info has been removed.

http://www.imf-electronics.com/Home/fried

Fried allso stated in his newsletters these models cold play 10db louder than the previous models that used the Kef drivers.

When I purchased my first model C satellite speaker kits he was unloading the older Fried models at bargain prices.

The Super Monitor use the Dynaudio D-28H tweeter, Dalesford 6.5" and 12" drivers.

There were several oem versions of the various Dalesford drivers used in the B-2, C, O ,T and Sm models.
The first 6.5" have a 90mm diameter magnet.
The fiinal versions made in 1980-81 use a 102mm daimeter magnet and extended pole piece.
Since this is a 1978 model they use the early versions.
 

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Great info, and nice Redstone link. Any idea why much of the info on imf-electronics site has been taken down ? Thanks for details on the Fried Super Monitors, it cures my curiousity. If I was in the market , I'd ask for a listen, they're selling nearby 1 1/2 hour drive; bet they sound awesome and I'm happy now with current gear. Not wanting to sell any gear to make room for these, but they look real nice !
 
AK'r ohioway has a pair of these I believe, and they do sound wonderful.
Regards,
Jim
 
Sorry for the misinformation, it won't happen again!
Regards,
Jim
 
Sorry for the misinformation, it won't happen again!
Regards,
Jim

Rick's O2 model have a 10" driver. It is basically the same T-line design as the Super Monitor subwoofers but slightly smaller.
In a picture both subs look almost identical.

I agree with Audiomagnate's opinion about the price.:)

Unfortunately there are no exact replacement drivers for this Fried Super Monitor model if a driver were to fail.
The Morel MDT 37 tweeter has a smaller faceplate than the Dynaudio D-28H tweeter but has the same exact specs and response curve being a licensed copy.
 
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I felt the need to comment on this thread. My Dad was a Fried dealer back in the 70s through the mid-90s when MARS began. He stopped dealing with them at that time, as he didn't believe in that system.

He bought the "kit" version of these speakers, and built them himself. He is a fantastic woodworker, and braced them very well. I was a little kid at that time, and remember them fondly. They took up the greater part of his living room at the time, but sounded fantastic. Very clean and neutral. He eventually sold them to a friend who still has them today and loves them. This version uses a Kef "Dextrene" woofer, and a fantastic Dynaudio tweeter. If you look closely, you'll see the tweeter is kind of "horn loaded", to increase efficiency. I have the original B monitors, which use the same drivers. The tweeter is detailed for the time, and very smooth sounding, with excellent power handling. The mid-woofer is a little sluggish and veiled sounding by today's standards- kind of "east coast" sound if you will. Still, a fantastic speaker for the time.

The only reason he sold them was to build their successors- the C/3L + O/4 set, which is what I have now. This version has a re-configured subwoofer cabinet, that is only about 14" wide, but is deep instead. My Dad continually followed Fried's driver upgrade program, concluding with a 3/4" Hiquophon tweeter and 6" Focal Kevlar midwoofer, and a 10" Woofer (can't remember the brand right now). I believe this last driver upgrade was done in the mid 90's. So, technically, mine would be more like a C/4L or C/5L, not sure. This design solved all the shortcomings of the first version. No more sluggish midrange, and excellent treble detail. The 3/4" tweeter is one of the best I've ever heard. It's one of the most detailed tweeters I've come across that can still remain musical.

The transmission line bass must be heard to be experienced. It is very clean, extended, and non-resonant. Also, the transmission line configuration results in some very stiff, non-resonant cabinets. Between the bracing, and sound-dampening, and lead applied, my O/4 cabs weigh about 200 pounds each!

My super-monitors are even cleaner, more detailed, and extended than the first generation, and are absolutely state of the art. I would put them up against a set of Wilson/Puppies any day, they are that good!

They were a gift to me when I moved into my own apartment, and are far away my most treasured possession. It's taken a while to get a front end worthy of what they can deliver.

My point to all this is to illustrate the value and quality of these speakers. Quite frankly, I'm very tempted to try to figure out how I can drum up that kind of money myself! Hmm, anyone want to buy a Mesa guitar amp? LOL.

-Jon
 
Azriel the Super Monitor satellites use the Dalesford 6.5" not a Kef driver. :)
I have built many pairs of the various C and O models.
Included are some pictures of the various C models that I have built that use the Dalesford drivers in post 7.

I have also built the C6 and O6 models that use the dual voice coil composite cones.

I prefer the O4 T-line enclosures over the first model O since the cutoff frequency is lower.
I also prefer the C3L enclosures over the first model C that use aperiodic loading of the mid bass driver.
There is far less cone excursion for the same spl in the C3L enclosures as compared to the aperiodic C enclosures using the exact same drivers.
 
The Super Monitor reminds me of a pair of Model M's I had back in the '80's.
Used a 8" KEF in a transmission line of same layout with a small enclosure with B-110's and T-27's..much like the Rogers LS-3/5A.
They sounded very good..I ran them with Hafler electronics.

Matt..........tubeornotube
 
Dalesford 10" woofers

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I happen to have a pristine set of rare 10" Dalesford bextrene woofers, which were also used in Fried T-lines. I noticed that one woofer swapped owners on ebay for close to 100 USD. The Fried Model T was a dual transmission line subwoofer, using a pair of 10" Dalesford woofers. It included a crossover to roll off high frequencies to the woofer as well as a set of direct inputs for use with an electronic crossover."
 
I saw those drivers for sale on Ebay.

I have the later Fried 10" Dalesford that were made in 1981 in the O4 T-lines subwoofers.

The crossover I am using consist of a 12mh 14gauge air core inductor and 150mfd cap in a series crossover circuit. No Zobel is required in the series crossover circuit like the parallel crossover circuit.
Fried used a few different versions of that size Dalesford driver in the model T, D and O models.
 
There was also an option of adding a super tweeter to the original Fried Super Monitor.
The super tweeter used was the Dynaudio D-21H.
I never had the opportunity to see and listen to the model using the optional super tweeter.

Enlcosed is the crossover schematic of this model.
 

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I happen to have a pristine set of rare 10" Dalesford bextrene woofers, which were also used in Fried T-lines. I noticed that one woofer swapped owners on ebay for close to 100 USD. The Fried Model T was a dual transmission line subwoofer, using a pair of 10" Dalesford woofers. It included a crossover to roll off high frequencies to the woofer as well as a set of direct inputs for use with an electronic crossover."

It's amazing how close those look to Audax Bextrines.
 
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