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somebody please explain east coast sound
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The new Quads actually have some. But basically you imagine it!
And at least the bass doesn't boom at you.
And ( talking about the originals) they don't go loud, and you have to rebuild them every so often, and they need a damn good amplifier, and you hear just what went wrong inthe recording, and CDs just don't sound as good as records, but other than that they are the best sound you can get.
Roland
And at least the bass doesn't boom at you.
And ( talking about the originals) they don't go loud, and you have to rebuild them every so often, and they need a damn good amplifier, and you hear just what went wrong inthe recording, and CDs just don't sound as good as records, but other than that they are the best sound you can get.
Roland
barredowl
Before and after Science
They are the best sound you can get for my ears...
There I fixed that for you.
Nothing wrong BTW with having reached your own audio bliss it fact that's great! Just don't expect everyone to automatically agree that the very lovely transparent, great soundstage, but somewhat thin sounding Quads are best for everyone, shrug. There are dynamic driver speakers that in essence flat (+- 3 db) frequency 35 to 16,000 some of us like, that sound "better" particularly say if you listen to lots of Jazz with acoustic double bass and drums like I do.
There I fixed that for you.
Nothing wrong BTW with having reached your own audio bliss it fact that's great! Just don't expect everyone to automatically agree that the very lovely transparent, great soundstage, but somewhat thin sounding Quads are best for everyone, shrug. There are dynamic driver speakers that in essence flat (+- 3 db) frequency 35 to 16,000 some of us like, that sound "better" particularly say if you listen to lots of Jazz with acoustic double bass and drums like I do.
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terra1
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The Allison movie industry reference can confuse those grown up with the current Home Theater experience. Which basically made obsolete the "full range" speakers and replaced them with satellite/subwoofer set ups. So the East/West Coast thing today is pretty much obsolete. Subwoofers are expected to give the necessary punch. And satellites are able to specialize in the high and mids. Separated duties to keep the hot side hot and the cold side cold.
As for as my personal experience many years ago --- before the age of Home Theater or subwoofers in every pot, I would agree with the premise that within my budget range, there were few speakers with deep punchy bass or really high clean treble.
So I had to save up for an upgrade.
As I became exposed to live concerts and dance bands, that gap between home speakers and the live experience became obvious.
My introduction to the West Coast sound came about searching for speakers that that would give that kind of dynamic "realism" or "illusion" depending on the camp you fall under. I wanted that crisp bass line, sizzlling quitars where you can hear the strum and friction on the windings, soaring vocals ...
I made it known I was looking specifically for tight punchy bass and sizzling soaring highs. The SALESMAN introduced me to the Cannon TLS 1232s which he said had the classic West Coast sound. Piezo tweeter, 12 inch woofer, 12 inch passive. I demoed listening to Chuck Mangione/Esther Satterfield's Land of Make Believe. Oo-oo-oo ... brass, drums, chilling vocals. Sold.
If you do a search there are more comprehensive East vs West Coast threads, but basically this is as good a capsule definition as any:
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/speakers/649/infinity-beta-home-theater-speaker-system.html
Back in hi-fi’s golden age, there used to be hot debates over “East Coast” vs. “West Coast” sound — no doubt a tame forerunner of the hip-hop wars of the ’90s. East Coast speakers were thought to be smooth and mellow, with “concert-hall” sound best suited to classical music and jazz. West Coast models were bright and punchy — just the ticket for loud rock & roll.
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barredowl
Before and after Science
"So the East/West Coast thing today is pretty much obsolete. Subwoofers gave the necessary punch. And satellites were able to specialize in the high and mids."
Ugh! I have never heard a sub satellite combo that integrated as well as a full range speaker designed from the ground up. In fact I suspect the reason many of us are here at Audiokarma is the realization of just how bad modern home theater oriented sub satellite systems sound.
My opinion of course. 
Ugh! I have never heard a sub satellite combo that integrated as well as a full range speaker designed from the ground up. In fact I suspect the reason many of us are here at Audiokarma is the realization of just how bad modern home theater oriented sub satellite systems sound.
My opinion of course.
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terra1
Addicted Member
"So the East/West Coast thing today is pretty much obsolete. Subwoofers gave the necessary punch. And satellites were able to specialize in the high and mids."
Ugh! I have never heard a sub satellite combo that integrated as well as a full range speaker designed from the ground up. In fact I suspect the reason many of us are here at Audiokarma is the realization of just how bad modern home theater oriented sub satellite systems sound.
My reference is to the distinction or extinction of East vs West Coast terms -- becoming obsolete. As previously mentioned, one of the reasons the terms fell out of use because of desire or trend for more accurate speakers - period. And I feel today, the use of separate subwoofers and satellites make the distinctions just as moot.
I guess I should have been more clear knowing the existence of Home Theater prejudices and attitudes here. Which is another debate that can be found in other threads and don't need to be rehashed here.
terra1
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Oh and I might add my reference to subwoofers don't necessarily equate to home theater.
Separate powered subwoofers strictly for music preceded even home theater. This was also a reason why East vs West lost some steam. Because now you could add that punch to your existing system.
Separate powered subwoofers strictly for music preceded even home theater. This was also a reason why East vs West lost some steam. Because now you could add that punch to your existing system.
barredowl
Before and after Science
Good luck figuring out the cross over point and levels at home on a sub v.s. a designed from scratch full ranger that even back in the dawn of audio was subjected to extensive measuring to determine crossover points for high and low range drivers. Even an old ragged set of Advents I had sounded more balanced than my very nice Linn Tukans plus a Polk sub. Maybe with a dsp and mic you can get close, but as I said I have yet to hear a well integrated sub yet, YMMV shrug.
p.s. East coast and west coast are pretty much obsolete with modern relatively flat full rangers, that still doesn't mean a sub is good. Can your sub handle a double bass solo such that it seamlessly transitions from the subs to satellites and do you think the bass response measures roughly +-3 db from say 35 to 120?
p.s. East coast and west coast are pretty much obsolete with modern relatively flat full rangers, that still doesn't mean a sub is good. Can your sub handle a double bass solo such that it seamlessly transitions from the subs to satellites and do you think the bass response measures roughly +-3 db from say 35 to 120?
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