A quick glance at the forum rules again -
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My favorite is #2 where it states. ..... ""
excessively" profane content is not allowed." The rule makers are allowing for some mildly profane content haha
I think where we crossed the line (again) here is #9 discussion of value. While no specific mention of cost was mentioned, that is likely where dlucy stepped in when I made a comment about it sold for a "very pretty penny".
Some of these rules are, in my opinion, an encumbrance to a flourishing forum. For instance if you post in thread "I am looking for XYZ outputs for this unobtanium JDM amp" and someone posts a "hey I have a few left over my project I could pass on to you" that is a violation. Or if you post in a thread "hey I am looking for a schematic for my CA-303" and you post that schematic that is a violation. Oddly if you post "where did you find those nice CNC'd feet for that SR-838" and you post a link to the vendor's website that is not a violation (because it is not self promotion, I assume).
The other challenge here is enforcement of forum rules which are at the discretion of the forum moderators. Often this enforcement can come across as inconsistent. These guys can't be everywhere at once. Mods are also tasked with enforcing the forum rules, not making them. So it is not on a forum mod to debate or change the rules. That kind of conversation can be facilitated to the AK owners privately, through a mod.
At the root of this I believe the intent here is to keep commercial activity out of the forum, which is fair. AK also wants to keep any documents isolated to digital docs forum, which I personally don't agree with, and have been given the opportunity to make my case to the forum owners.
This a great thread. Hope it lives on.